£80 fixed penality charge for spitting - Harringay online2024-03-19T03:20:55Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/80-fixed-penality-charge-for-spitting?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHow are you going to prevent…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-01-19:844301:Comment:10509902018-01-19T11:13:37.764ZHarringay 4evahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AbiTownsend
How are you going to prevent this from happening again? Are you carrying tissues everywhere now?
How are you going to prevent this from happening again? Are you carrying tissues everywhere now? Well I sent all the documents…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-01-19:844301:Comment:10508332018-01-19T10:32:37.937ZJaffryhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Jaffry
<p>Well I sent all the documents and gp letter to highway.enforcement@(local council).gov.uk. And got reply today they have cancelled the penality ticket.I suppose it worked out well and am thankful they understood the nature of offence.</p>
<p>Now I posted here not to defend the offence (spitting) and I never said I was right and penality for spitting is wrong.I just felt unfair under certain circumstances also I think £80 is bit too much tbh.I would have been prepared for it if I knew on the…</p>
<p>Well I sent all the documents and gp letter to highway.enforcement@(local council).gov.uk. And got reply today they have cancelled the penality ticket.I suppose it worked out well and am thankful they understood the nature of offence.</p>
<p>Now I posted here not to defend the offence (spitting) and I never said I was right and penality for spitting is wrong.I just felt unfair under certain circumstances also I think £80 is bit too much tbh.I would have been prepared for it if I knew on the way I will start choking.I am 49 years old accountant and I am aware of spreading germs by spitting may be on previous post I came across bit angry and aggressive but I am normally very careful when it comes to enviornment.I am in very mature age I wouldnt just walk arround spitting but its hard to explain situation here.I thought someone might had or heard anything like that issue and can share their openion or know little bit legality and can advice me but Evryone started talking about spitting which is irrelevent topic to discus because I totally agree spitting is wrong.I appriciate some people sugessted I can carry tissue or try to be preapared when I notice symptoms which is very sensible thing to say.Well I personally believe having critical openion is not bad thing but being too jugemental and dragging away from actual topic just reading the title and leaving harsh coments are socially incorrect.</p>
<p>well I can sit here write long essays and try and clerify myself its not gonna help anyways.I am thankful to legends of irrelevence and to all other sensible critics as well for taking time out and participating in my discussion.</p>
<p>lastly I am leaving advice for someone who may come accross this topic in future if you think you may have committed an offence (specially environmental fixed penality charge) first do not try and lie about it.Admit it because officers have camera recording tell them trouth and if you think you were under special circomstances like my self than contact local council and citizen advice and send some sort of document proof to council and highway enviornmental authority.dont be panic because penality charge says after 14 days if you fail to pay charge you will recieve court sommon and if you loose fine can be upto £2500 so dont be stupid and not pay if you think your case is not jsutified but ignore it if you think you shouldnt be given that penality charge and you will win because after sending representation that14 days period will be irrelevent until highway authority reconsider their origional decison and they will look into vedeo evidence too.Specially in my case their exact email words were"Also we seen vedeo evidence as well and you were saying to Officers you are choking and you can taste acid let me go to pharmacy let me get medicine than issue me ticket". Which they apologised by defending officer anyone can say things like that but its hard to believe.</p>
<p>First £80 slap is something serious so please first try and avoid if possible,second get ready to be humiliated socially if you post for good intenstions for advice you know there are so many frustrated people arround to have strong take on your case without putting theirslef into your situation and third rule is that in future I am not going to forget fisrt two rules</p> I am delighted that Environme…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-01-19:844301:Comment:10507932018-01-19T06:27:21.940ZAlliehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AllisonFarnumDavies
<p>I am delighted that Environmental Health is being more proactive. I'm disgusted by the spit/human body waste I have to look out for on the pavement. It's a health hazard and if it's unavoidable that you have to spit, then walk with tissues. If you had a streaming cold and hacking cough, it wouldn't be acceptable to spit onto the pavement. It's not acceptable to spit, it's inconsiderate and deeply unpleasant for others, including families with young children.</p>
<p>I am delighted that Environmental Health is being more proactive. I'm disgusted by the spit/human body waste I have to look out for on the pavement. It's a health hazard and if it's unavoidable that you have to spit, then walk with tissues. If you had a streaming cold and hacking cough, it wouldn't be acceptable to spit onto the pavement. It's not acceptable to spit, it's inconsiderate and deeply unpleasant for others, including families with young children.</p> Exactly. Most winters I get a…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-01-19:844301:Comment:10507892018-01-19T04:51:08.335ZSarahhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/SarahMoore195
<p>Exactly. Most winters I get a cold with a fairly "productive" cough. Or my nose drips. I am on medication and the dripping is one of the side effects too. </p>
<p>In nearly every shop there are little packets of tissues you can keep in your pocket in case you need one on the go. I buy them in packets of ten to make sure I am never without a tissue.</p>
<p>If like me you have a medical condition then you should be prepared to deal with that medical condition - not force the people around you…</p>
<p>Exactly. Most winters I get a cold with a fairly "productive" cough. Or my nose drips. I am on medication and the dripping is one of the side effects too. </p>
<p>In nearly every shop there are little packets of tissues you can keep in your pocket in case you need one on the go. I buy them in packets of ten to make sure I am never without a tissue.</p>
<p>If like me you have a medical condition then you should be prepared to deal with that medical condition - not force the people around you to deal with it by dodging your spit.</p> Spitting looks, sounds &…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-01-14:844301:Comment:10496852018-01-14T16:40:03.308ZHarringay 4evahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AbiTownsend
<p>Spitting looks, sounds & is gross. No excuse for spitting on the floor, if you need to do it, use a tissue & then put it in the bin. My neighbour had tuberculous last year & I've just seen someone on another forum say they have it. It's disgusting & whenever I see someone spit on the floor around here it makes me feel that they don't care about other people living in their community. Have some respect. I wish the enforcement officers caught more people doing it, I'm fed up…</p>
<p>Spitting looks, sounds & is gross. No excuse for spitting on the floor, if you need to do it, use a tissue & then put it in the bin. My neighbour had tuberculous last year & I've just seen someone on another forum say they have it. It's disgusting & whenever I see someone spit on the floor around here it makes me feel that they don't care about other people living in their community. Have some respect. I wish the enforcement officers caught more people doing it, I'm fed up seeing frothy, muscus phlegm all over the pavements. </p> This makes me so angry I coul…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-01-14:844301:Comment:10496722018-01-14T08:43:07.398Z0jk04rmxqqirkhttps://harringayonline.com/xn/detail/u_0jk04rmxqqirk
<p>This makes me so angry I could spit</p>
<p>This makes me so angry I could spit</p> Which was -- and is still --…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-01-13:844301:Comment:10498632018-01-13T23:22:03.014ZGordon Thttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GordonT
<p>Which was -- and is still -- a main public health reason why spitting is wrong, for fear of spreading the disease. </p>
<p>Which was -- and is still -- a main public health reason why spitting is wrong, for fear of spreading the disease. </p> Whilst I completely sympathis…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-01-13:844301:Comment:10496662018-01-13T20:47:36.323ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>Whilst I completely sympathise with what seems harsh treatment compared to other goings on around us... there is also a disease called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tuberculosis</a> that makes you spit.</p>
<p>Whilst I completely sympathise with what seems harsh treatment compared to other goings on around us... there is also a disease called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tuberculosis</a> that makes you spit.</p> Spit is spit though - how can…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-01-13:844301:Comment:10496162018-01-13T18:06:36.512ZCharlottehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/dane66
<p>Spit is spit though - how can the environmental officers be expected to make a subjective decision on whether it is okay for one person to do it and not another one? I feel for you not being well but what is the problem with spitting in a tissue?</p>
<p>Spit is spit though - how can the environmental officers be expected to make a subjective decision on whether it is okay for one person to do it and not another one? I feel for you not being well but what is the problem with spitting in a tissue?</p> Here's the thread http://www.…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-01-13:844301:Comment:10494152018-01-13T07:45:07.322ZGordon Thttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GordonT
<p>Here's the thread <a href="http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/fixed-penalty-notice-spitting" target="_blank">http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/fixed-penalty-notice-spitting</a></p>
<p>His original post survives though his subsequent comments don't because he deleted his account. Similar sentiments to Jaffrey though different writing style.</p>
<p>Here's the thread <a href="http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/fixed-penalty-notice-spitting" target="_blank">http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/fixed-penalty-notice-spitting</a></p>
<p>His original post survives though his subsequent comments don't because he deleted his account. Similar sentiments to Jaffrey though different writing style.</p>