Does Anyone Know Where Duckett's Common is? - Harringay online2024-03-29T15:33:03Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/does-anyone-know-where-duckett-s-common-is?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1074031&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI have an 1869 OS map showing…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-04-16:844301:Comment:10740312018-04-16T13:26:47.695ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>I have an 1869 OS map showing the road going east from Hornsey atill as "Tottenham Lane". There's a report of the Hornsey Local Board in the Hampstead & Highgate Express on 27 January 1872 where it is referred to as Turnpike Lane. </p>
<p>So it seems like the transition of name might have been around 1870. Now that's very odd since that was about the time that the turnpike stopped operating! (1872 in fact).</p>
<p>(<em>An act of 1710 authorised the introduction of a turnpike at Hornsey…</em></p>
<p>I have an 1869 OS map showing the road going east from Hornsey atill as "Tottenham Lane". There's a report of the Hornsey Local Board in the Hampstead & Highgate Express on 27 January 1872 where it is referred to as Turnpike Lane. </p>
<p>So it seems like the transition of name might have been around 1870. Now that's very odd since that was about the time that the turnpike stopped operating! (1872 in fact).</p>
<p>(<em>An act of 1710 authorised the introduction of a turnpike at Hornsey although tolls were not levied until 1739. The Stamford Hill and Green Lanes Turnpike Trust finally erected a gate on Green Lanes at the intersection with Tottenham Lane in 1765. in 1872, the turnpike system was abolished and the gate was dismantled. </em><span><em>You can see a photo of the gate <a href="http://www.harringayonline.com/photo/dick-turpin-and-the-hornsey-turnpike" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a> just before it disappeared.</em>)</span></p> Quite forgot for a mo there t…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-04-16:844301:Comment:10743052018-04-16T11:25:36.680ZRichard Woodshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RichardWoods
<p>Quite forgot for a mo there that you are a historian and curator!</p>
<p>Quite forgot for a mo there that you are a historian and curator!</p> Here are some newspaper snipp…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-04-15:844301:Comment:10739732018-04-15T01:49:01.563ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Here are some newspaper snippets. The first about a cricket match, from Sporting Life on 28 June 1873 just shows “Ducketts Green” in common use. </p>
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<p>The second, reporting on the doings of Tottenham Council, shows the use of both Duckett's Green and Duckett's Common. It is from the London North Middlesex Weekly Standard on 26 January 1900. This…</p>
<p>Here are some newspaper snippets. The first about a cricket match, from Sporting Life on 28 June 1873 just shows “Ducketts Green” in common use. </p>
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<p>The second, reporting on the doings of Tottenham Council, shows the use of both Duckett's Green and Duckett's Common. It is from the London North Middlesex Weekly Standard on 26 January 1900. This makes it sound like they're referring to Duckett's Common IN Duckett's Green.</p>
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<p>Lastly there's an snippet from the House of Commons Papers from 1911:</p>
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<p></p> Should you need something to…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-04-14:844301:Comment:10739712018-04-14T22:51:05.533ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Should you need something to touch and see, here are a couple of maps.</p>
<p>The first is an excerpt from the Wyld Map of 1872. The small settlement of Duckett's Green got absorbed into London along with West Green and Wood Green. The old buildings cane down in the sixties and were replaced with the council ones that are there today. <a href="http://www.harringayonline.com/photo/the-green-gate-pub-west-green-road-c1870" rel="noopener" target="_blank">This building</a> is probably one of…</p>
<p>Should you need something to touch and see, here are a couple of maps.</p>
<p>The first is an excerpt from the Wyld Map of 1872. The small settlement of Duckett's Green got absorbed into London along with West Green and Wood Green. The old buildings cane down in the sixties and were replaced with the council ones that are there today. <a href="http://www.harringayonline.com/photo/the-green-gate-pub-west-green-road-c1870" target="_blank" rel="noopener">This building</a> is probably one of those shown on the map.</p>
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<p>Below is an excerpt from the 'Plan of The Borough of Hornsey' drawn up by the Borough Surveyor in 1925, bu which time Duckett's Green appears to have moved to the west and being used for the common ground set out in around 1900 (see second newspaper article below).</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2162874905?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2162874905?profile=original" width="546" class="align-center"/></a></p> Relatively modern meaning lat…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-04-14:844301:Comment:10738402018-04-14T22:43:59.458ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Relatively modern meaning late nineteenth/early twentieth century. I wrote above that I was referring to a "historical name". In that context, for me late nineteenth/early twentieth century is modern. Sorry if I misled you. I trust that you all post-date that period!!</p>
<p>Relatively modern meaning late nineteenth/early twentieth century. I wrote above that I was referring to a "historical name". In that context, for me late nineteenth/early twentieth century is modern. Sorry if I misled you. I trust that you all post-date that period!!</p> Always Ducketts Common in my…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-04-14:844301:Comment:10740702018-04-14T22:37:05.875ZGeraldinehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GeraldineTaylorThomas
<p>Always Ducketts Common in my day - 1941-1963.</p>
<p>Always Ducketts Common in my day - 1941-1963.</p> That was exactly what i was t…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-04-14:844301:Comment:10739272018-04-14T22:31:59.068ZRedrubyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JuliaDavies786
<p>That was exactly what i was thinking/going to say.</p>
<p>I was born and grew up in that area and have never known it be called anything else!</p>
<p>That was exactly what i was thinking/going to say.</p>
<p>I was born and grew up in that area and have never known it be called anything else!</p> Except that it never existed…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-04-14:844301:Comment:10740672018-04-14T21:06:55.449ZRichard Woodshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RichardWoods
<p>Except that it never existed in the 20 years (to 1964) that I lived 150 metres away? West Green it was. That seems to to have moved almost to the area then known as Downhills!</p>
<p>Except that it never existed in the 20 years (to 1964) that I lived 150 metres away? West Green it was. That seems to to have moved almost to the area then known as Downhills!</p> The road nowadays and for mos…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-04-14:844301:Comment:10740662018-04-14T21:04:57.028ZRichard Woodshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RichardWoods
<p>The road nowadays and for most of the 20th century called Turnpike Lane was Tottenham Lane on old maps - logical since it led from Hornsey to Tottenham (or vice versa). </p>
<p>I do not know when the tube took the name Turnpike Lane but it follows common policy with the London Underground of naming stations after the most prominent adjacent feature/rod etc. Mind you where the "Manor House" actually was has ever been a mystery!</p>
<p>I can however tell you that Turnpike Lane was called that…</p>
<p>The road nowadays and for most of the 20th century called Turnpike Lane was Tottenham Lane on old maps - logical since it led from Hornsey to Tottenham (or vice versa). </p>
<p>I do not know when the tube took the name Turnpike Lane but it follows common policy with the London Underground of naming stations after the most prominent adjacent feature/rod etc. Mind you where the "Manor House" actually was has ever been a mystery!</p>
<p>I can however tell you that Turnpike Lane was called that from the 30s when my Gran moved to a flat not far away. And Ducketts Common was called that then. I envisage it being without the plane trees or the at one time vicious railings and so far more 'common' like in the early 20th century. </p> When you say relatively moder…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-04-14:844301:Comment:10740652018-04-14T21:00:15.300ZRichard Woodshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RichardWoods
<p>When you say relatively modern how far back are you going? I lived opposite from 1946 to 1964 and its was always Ducketts Common. There was never a Ducketts Green anywhere ever in those days - if called anything the area was always called West Green; even though it is east of the 'green'/common!However it did have it's own 'green' - the triangle known sometimes itself as West Green and even at one time The Pleasaunce - tres posh! </p>
<p>I love the idea of calling it The Fiver because the…</p>
<p>When you say relatively modern how far back are you going? I lived opposite from 1946 to 1964 and its was always Ducketts Common. There was never a Ducketts Green anywhere ever in those days - if called anything the area was always called West Green; even though it is east of the 'green'/common!However it did have it's own 'green' - the triangle known sometimes itself as West Green and even at one time The Pleasaunce - tres posh! </p>
<p>I love the idea of calling it The Fiver because the Queens and the Duke at either end!</p>