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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Does anyone know what's opening on Green Lanes where the old Class International food shop used to be?

Although work has been going on for some months, it seems to be ramping up now although it still isn't clear what the new business will be... 

If anyone has any news, please share! 

Thanks

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Turkish restaurant....

Thanks NeilT. Why am I not surprised!

Any ideas when it's opening?

Yes, a Turkish restaurant is being built, I'm told, by the owners of Gunaydin Restaurant in Edmonton. Planning permission has apparently been erroneously granted (under permitted development rights) - in an unusually rapid two-day turnaround. Erroneously, because this type of semi-automatic permission can only be granted to premises of 150 sq ft or less. The original planning applications, as they relate to a three-premises business, were turned down and permitted development rights granted for just one of the three premises in this triple shop premises. A couple of weeks ago I learned that permission was separately sought for the other two and grants were made within two days of the applications being received. Because this is being developed as a single restaurant, these grants are clearly outside the scope of what is allowed within the regulations. I'm told that it's being challenged, but in the strange world of Haringey Council who knows what the eventual outcome will be.

The eventual outcome will be Kebab.
What!!!!! Retail to restaurant of that size is not permitted development. It needs permission for change of use and proper consultation. Any councillors (St Ann's Ward?) reading this can they find out what has happened because frankly it smells really bad.
Link below to the use classes order and permitted change of use
https://www.gva.co.uk/planning/use-class-order/

Yes, it's not permitted and, having previously refused permitted development for two of the shops, the planning department is aware of the situation. It's either incompetence or something similar.  

Should we be emailing David Lammy !?

If you think it might make a difference, Alexander, why not.

He doesn't care.
He is useless!
Better to spend your time campaigning to get a replacement MP.

He may also give his broken record message that it isn't his remit as MP but that of the local level council.

He is useless!

So we'll have three "separate" turkish restaurants instead of one big one.. 

This application has been called unlawful. There is suggestion that those responsible for granting the planning permission are incompetent or corrupt in some way.

It is always a problem with social media and the internet that allegations can be made so easily. I wonder if these allegations have been made to the face of the woman who was responsible for processing the planning application? Have the same allegations be made in person to the business people who wants to operate the restaurant? If not, why not?

I have run a several businesses over the years in Haringey and Walthamstow. I have dealt with their planning teams and have some understanding of planning law and processes.

The applications for 14 and 15 Grand Parade refer to two properties which are under 150sqm. There is no suggestion that walls are to be knocked through. So the planning officers have a simple case of two permitted developments. It is not for them to second-guess the application or to overlay planning law with some subjective opinion about the applicant. I cant see any justification for some very strong accusations, but I do agree that something smells bad. Is it a whiff of prejudice?

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