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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Yesterday evening meeting friends at the Hashtag 365/367 Green Lanes, we noticed a large pothole on the western (northbound) side of Green Lanes, It looked large enough to trap a bike wheel and cause an accident. Especially at night and if rain filled the hole.
This pothole is marked with painted lines which looked faded. So maybe it was reported and listed for repair a while ago. I reported it - with a photo - using FixMyStreet free website including a photo showing the location.
I have the impression that across the borough the pothole problem is getting worse. So I hope people will make an extra effort to report those they spot.

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An old 'friend', it reappears every second or third winter, has done for a decade at least. There may be a stand-off between the council and Thames Water (the ironwork in the hole is marked W and looks like a valve access cover) in terms of spending enough to do a proper reconstruction rather than a local patch. Also, given where it is (within the Sainsburys junction) scheduling that work so Green Lanes doesn't seize up completely.

I think you're right about the reluctance to do anything permanent because of the need to close the junction. On the southbound side a "lake" has regularly appeared for years after heavy rain.

Surely they could do it at 2am  with alternate working on the East side ?

I think the lake is a combination of a dodgy camber of the road surface and inadequate drainage so will take a fair bit of work. In the meantime we can all do the Harringay Sprint after it rains

Why not divert the traffic up Endymion, along Wightman and then back down the most convenient eastbound Ladder rung?

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Gordon T, I don't object to a temporary patch-up. Seems to me the immediate need is to prevent someone getting injured or killed.
But of course you're right and it's sensible to track sites where there are a series of short term or temporary repairs and to calculate the point at which a solid preventative reconstruction might even save money in the longer term.
And possibly save lives as well. If Thames Water and/or Haringey get sued it could cost them more. One advantage of photos and public websites like FixMyStreet is that Haringey or Transport for London can get their skates on. At the same time the evidence stays around and can be easily searched and retrieved.

P.S For some reason my photo was displayed sideways. I've fixed that. (Or so I hope.) For anyone reading this who has come off their bike. The photo is Creative Commons so feel free to take it along to your lawyers.

This is a horrible one to go over on a bike, and not always easy to swerve around due to the traffic.
Thanks for reporting, fingers crossed action will be taken, but I won't hold my breath.

Hi Lisa,

Some news though not yet good.

 When Alan and I went to the Hashtag on 10 June, as we walked across the road the pothole was obvious and clearly dangerous. I asked him take a photo 


Haringey’s acknowledgment arrived only this morning and said the report was made today - instead of 11 June when it was actually sent.


Today I’d arranged a visit the Wightman Road Mosque following the terrorist attack in Finsbury Park. So I asked Alan to chase this up. He was told that Highways staff are 5-6 days behind in dealing with pothole reports. Also that there is no ‘triage’ system to try to identify more serious potholes from descriptions and photos. They said an order had “been raised” to fix this pothole. But the person at Highways couldn’t say from the computer records if the pothole had been filled or not. They promised to follow this up.

This afternoon I visited and took a photo myself. As you and others may know, the pothole has not been filled.

I  cannot understand why Haringey don’t use residents’ photos as part of the triage process. I also think that having a continuous work backlog is likely to generate more work responding to extra calls from members of the public.

Above all, we need to act quickly to avoid accidents and damage caused by potholes

 

I’m very sorry that you and other people have not had a good service from Haringey. I will keep pressing.

 

Yours

Zena 

Zena Brabazon

Cllr, Harringay Ward

 

Hello Zena.

The pothole is STILL there nearly two weeks after you or Alan reported it.

Is it possible it's been there so long that it has acquired Heritage or Protected status ?

If you squint a little and the sun is in the right place it resembles the baby Jesus the 2nd Tuesday after he was born. I think this would be enough to discourage any god-fearing pothole filler from disturbing it.

The annual one over the New River northbound further the road has been there all winter this time. You do realise that when we stop burning fossil fuels we won't be surfacing our roads with this crappy byproduct of the refining process?

As a Haringey cyclist, I can confirm that Green Lanes in general has some of the WORST road surfaces I have encountered anywhere (and I cycle ten miles each way to work and back most days)....in particular, the bit south of Turnpike Lane station heading north is appallingly dangerous as the road is narrow and there are buses alongside.  It is pretty much like cycling over an unmade up section of road - there are whole series of potholes.  Third world or what?  Does FixMyStreet work?  In any case you have prompted me to (finally) file a report to the Council.  I can think of plenty more places like that in the borough.   

 

I went back on 9 July 2017. The pothole still wasn't fixed. I took two new photos. A close-up showed the pothole deeper as several fragments had gone. It also looked like additional small pieces of the road surface are about to break-up.

Re-reported to Haringey Council via Fix My Street.

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