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Konzert Verein, Alexandra Palace, August 1917

The details given in the title are handwritten on the back of the postcard in a script style that looks contemporary with the apparent date. Given this date, and despite how smart they look, I'm wondering of this was a concert given by German prisoners of war.

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Albums: Historical Images of Alexandra Palace & Park

Comment by Geraldine on April 7, 2018 at 1:54

Very interesting, and notable that all are men.  I am not making an equality statement, just an observation.  It would have been so in 1917.

Comment by John D on April 7, 2018 at 7:47

Prisoners of war or interned  " enemy aliens " ? The latter would account for the smart clothing.

Comment by John D on April 7, 2018 at 7:57
Comment by John D on April 7, 2018 at 8:21

@ Geraldine.

Women " enemy aliens " were not subject to internment.

Comment by Hugh on April 7, 2018 at 11:06

Depends on the language you use, John. They were prisoners of war and interned aliens

Comment by John D on April 7, 2018 at 15:41

Sure Hugh, but I like to keep the distinction. Prisoners of war ( military ) would probably be wearing the remnants of their uniforms: the interned aliens ( civilians |) would wear their civilian clothes. I'm not sure that prisoners of war ( in my terms) were housed at AP : only internees and refugees.

Comment by Straw Cat on April 7, 2018 at 15:55

Yes, though it is an abiding myth I've not seen any reliable sources of POWs at AP mixed with the internees - the security logistics for the former would have been vastly different. As you say they'd have still worn their uniforms and kept military discipline.

Comment by Hugh on April 7, 2018 at 16:30

I’m not sure what the myth is. People were interned as civilian prisoners of war. I think the word used depends on the spin you wish to put on it. But there’s no getting away from the fact that the UK imprisoned people at Ally Pally during the Great War. 

Comment by Hugh on April 7, 2018 at 17:04

For the avoidance of doubt, Britannica offers the following definition of the term 'prisoners of war':

Prisoner of war (POW), any person captured or interned by a belligerent power during war.

Comment by Hugh on April 7, 2018 at 18:08

We’re discussing the meaning of prisoners vs detainees because you drew the distinction, John. From my perspective it hasn’t escalated into an argument. I thought we were discussing. Sorry to read that you e been experiencing it differently.

For me a polite exchange of views usually leads to learning and this occasion has been no different. So thank you. 

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