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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Below are the results for the wards which are either wholly or partly in Harringay.

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so those benefiting from austerity voted Liberal those suffering voted Labour

Very disappointing.  Not surprised at the result based on unscientific observations of posters in windows, but the margin was much larger than hoped.  Politicians know that most of the time the real battle is within your own party, hence the bitter infighting.  Once you've got your red rosette (or blue/yellow rosette in other parts of the country) you are in.  Lack of actual campaigning in the east of the borough by Labour illustrates this.  

In other news (aka not news at all), you can see exactly how posh/gentrified your ward is by looking at the turnout.  Pretty strong sliding scale correlation.  Wards in the east got just over 30% turnout, some areas of the west over 50%, and at 42% we are about in the middle... which seems fairly accurate.  

I think in Harringay there are a significant number of people attracted to the Corbyn leadership & agenda. They're excited by the change away from new Labour. He has got the floating voter backing him.

In the wider UK electorate it's back to a 2 party situation. Clegg drastically reduced the Libdems seats by sleeping with the devil and particularly by backing that massive rise in tuition fees.

What's the actual vote share picture trend nationally then, Matt? Borough-wide in Haringey both the main parties still fall well-sort of their pre-206 performances

I want to thank everyone who voted for us on Thursday, and also to thank our everyone who ran for a fair and good natured contest. We appreciate the support we've been shown and recognise  the trust being placed in us. 

Zena 

Zena Brabazon

Cllr, Harringay Ward

Yes! Compared to 2010 (remember that Liz and Hugh?) and 2014, this election was positively polite!

Sleeping with the Devil?  He did what he stood for, to govern. If he'd gone with the Labour Party it would have been ok would it? Recyling sound bites doesn't help.

He made the mistake of tuition Fees and for that his party will pay the price.. I'm still hoping that after the #Brexit Bandwagon falls over that cliff, that there will be a necessary re-alignment in British politics, with a decent party right of centre. Corbyn gets older by the day and I wonder how long he'll want to keep the job. TM and her rabble are like rats in a sack, although I was surprised at well they actually did. Must be the ex-UKIPpers, although they and the pro Brexiters are dropping like flies, as their average age is about 71.

Surely it's time for the U.K. to step into the democratic stable and take on PR. I still live in hope.  I seriously resent the country and the party that wouldn't give me a vote on something that seriously effects my life and my nationality. But still allowing those white faced antipodeans a vote.

New graph/s added here.

did the Media declare this a win for the Liberals ?

It's beginning to seem that whoever you voted for, the property developers (including Tottenham Hotspur) may have got in again.

And I owe Osbawn a grovelling apology for grossly misreading the role of Momentum.

A tenth of those who voted in the elections across Haringey chose the Green Party. One in eight voted Conservative.

These parties were the third and fourth most popular in the borough, but out of 57 council seats, the Greens and Tories won no seats at all.

Because the voting system we use is unfair it skews results in favour of the incumbent party
This means more than nearly one fifth of voters will be unrepresented in the council chamber.

During the next four years in Haringey there will be no Green or Conservative voices taken into consideration, leaving an artificially weakened Liberal group as the only opposition.

In a politically, ecologically, aware borough with many small businesses this is surely not only a disgrace but actually dangerous.

This makes something of a mockery of the Government’s current National Democracy Week.

Slogans for this include:  

"It is an opportunity to use all of our experience, insight and passion to deliver a programme of activity that encourages more people to be part of our democracy. We are united in one mission"

“Regardless of who we are or where we are from, we must work together to ensure that every member of society has an equal chance to participate in our democracy and to have their say.”

Can anyone think of a better way to encourage extreme and marginalised factions.

Power wielded by the Labour Party in Haringey is going to be much stronger over the coming four years than was requested by voters. Wining 57 percent of the vote but 73 percent of the seats resulted in nine councillors more than they are entitled to.

Had the vote been proportional seats would have reflected votes. The Labour majority would have been four, instead of the thirteen handed out by our unfair voting system.

When you extrapolate this nationally, Westminster has a governing party on 42% and an opposition on 40%, meaning that 58% do not one and 60% do not want the other.

At the moment neither of the two main parties, it can be argued, can be said to be fit to govern.

We have in Haringey a one party state and nationally are effectively without a government at all.

Proportional Representation is the principal that an elected body reflects the votes that are cast across the entire electorate. If it was used in the UK it would greatly alter our politics. Voters would not need to vote tactically, to influence the result, they could vote for the one they want.
Politicians would be forced to treat voters equally, instead of concentrating on the 15% of marginal constituencies where elections are currently decided.

Two-thirds of a recent nationwide poll said they thought seats should match votes. It was about time the UK caught up with other democracies and gave all voters a say in how their councils and their country are run.

The Government is proposal of a National Democracy Week is largely one suspects, to heap praise on the current crop of politicians who seem to believe they are there as a right.

The claim will be that we have a better method than the Dutch, Germans or Italians. All of whom have a long record of greater social and certainly economic success than us. Along with the Swedes, Norwegians and the Danes who are not doing too badly either.

Used locally it would truly be a council which represented local people.

Let us turn the tables on the establishment and use this week to promote the fairer and more representative system of PR. Most other democracies do so but no doubt it is too much to expect Democracy here, certainly in this borough.

Sorry for the rather extended monologue but it would deal with a lot (not all, no system is perfect) of the comments made.

PR is not only bringing extreme right wing neo nazis to power all over the EU it is the only voting system to have brought nazis to power.

far from electing a government that most people want it elects governments that no one wants, except the careerist professional politicians we all hate.

Many of us would give up voting as we could not win, your all inclusive voting system would disenfranchise many of us. 

We were offered this in a referendum we said no

Beware those who come in the name of democracy , they simply seek changes that would benefit them.

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