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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Haringey scores again ... bucking downward trend on London drug dealing

BBC article https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48343369

The London Borough of Haringey shows a 'strong' increase in drug dealing, according to the above article. The increase is less than 100 recorded drug related crimes compared to 2013 but it is categorized as a 'strong' increase. We all know most dealing etc goes under the radar (unrecorded).

Haringey joins Newham and Kensington & Chelsea in an increase whilst other areas show a decrease. The article is broadly about drug dealing increasing outside of major cities to smaller communities, county lines as it's become known.

Why is Haringey bucking the downward trend? Maybe some county line operations are running out of this borough ...

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Lammy promised to sort this out 2 years ago but no action.

The Tories and Theresa May cut the police numbers.. Not Lammy. Trying to push the blame on him is par for the course. Isn't it?

Lammy (i am not a fan) unfortunately is NOT in a position to do anything about crime.

Tory cuts. Less police. Less spending on social services in a cash strapped borough. Years of ineptitude andwarped policies by past Haringey leadership when their idea of 'regeneration' was all about property development and not human development and social resiliency.

What can he really do? He’s an MP that isn’t in government. He has no real authority (sadly)

My son is off to Finsbury Park skate park early morn with his mate. Why so early I asked. To avoid the drug dealers who are asking if they want to buy. He's 15. The dealers start arriving from 10am. I ask ... what are the police doing? This is not the London anyone wants.

Oh that's been done a zillion times re the passage Osbawn, including chats about it face to face with our local SNT. The answer is always ...oh but the deals are over so quickly, it's difficult to catch them in the act. The only effective action I'm aware of was an undercover op last year when things were silly re dealing. That moved things on for a while. There has to be concerted action as a matter of policy and resources. Think zero tolereance NYC. Or .... think the other way, if society wants it ... decriminalize and have legit taxable business as in other US states now. The in between isn't the answer ... that's the shadowlands

Every morning for the past few days there has been a huge amount of those silver bullet drug things dumped in the gutter by Turnpike Lane / Ducketts Common. Seems really odd that so many people should choose to take that drug right there?

Yes noticed that as well. Go to a festival these days and you end up skating on them there's so many under foot by end of the day.

Could they be clearing out their cars? My flat overlooks a car park on an estate, a few nights in a row I was woken up by the clinking sound of these things being cleared out of a car and onto the ground.

I reported it along with a picture and it stopped. Maybe a coincidence as I don't know how the council would have dealt with that.

Technically not a Drug , but easy to buy and Use 

Used metal bottles can be recycled

Saw a report it really bad in Car Park at Alexandra Park

Has anyone brought it up at Local Police Meetings or with councillors

Seen reports on Haringey Facebook page. that there has been joint operations with Police and Council 

But from numbers of Offences reported looks more like Publicity Stunt

Joke in Wood Green is that in the Days of Austerity there are 100 plus scooter delivery riders delivering food and drugs. Aware the Police do arrest and charge offenders. But these days Offender get put on Police Bail waiting months for a Court date. Then given a suspended Sentences. 

See reports on Nextdoor Noel Park - forum board, that Police and Council Enforcement are doing joint operations. But as soon as they are seen, dealers swap areas

Was advised that Drug dealers was getting phone numbers from people leaving Wood Green Tube station. and Texting them a price list. Used to be a drug team that was friends with Taxi firm corner of Lordship Lane and Berners Road. Police used to park CCTV vehicle outside Cinema. The used to sit in Taxi's awaiting customers and driving off when Police in Area. Police had serious words with Cab Firm. But aware they are now with Delivery scooter riders who park up in large numbers

Notice on one of the Police Facebook pages, that lists reported crimes that they are dealing with large numbers in the Borough. With limited Facilities

Do see more police around Wood Green. As Police Garage is in Western Road.    So Wood Green station gets a good number of Police drive pasts 

Good info summary. Yes they need resources and to keep up with the rather entrepreneurial ways of the dealers and others. Or .... as I said in another post society decides to legalise and tax it like the alcohol trade.

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