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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

I'm staying in a little side street in Paris and once a week a van comes down and pressure hoses the street (picture attached) road and pavements included. Another operative follows behind sucking up the rubbish with a big vacuum thing. On the main streets this happens two or three times a week. Why not here?

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I moved to Harringay only a short while ago, and absolutely love it. However, the amount of rubbish on the street - either random juice cartons or paper blowing in the wind, or simply bags of rubbish piled up in the street - is really starting to grate on me! The area has so much going for it, but the state of the streets and rubbish around, is really off-putting! Aside from the weekly bin collectors, I have never seen a street cleaner/sweeper etc - alone or with a machine - in the area. Why is that?  

I think foxes are the biggest litter culprits but the London spirit has always loved the roguish non conformist dissenters and for that reason, I doubt we will ever truly solve this problem.

The royal family didn't chose to live in Windsor for no good reason after all.
To be fair, I see street sweepers pretty much every day on Green Lanes and the Ladder/Gardens headers. My blood boils though when I see things like the owner of the Internet cafe next to the bus stop near Barclays come out if his shop to chuck unbagged rubbish on the growing pile - mostly in Sainsburys bags - banked up against the bus shelter. That pile is near permanent. Come to think of it, that's right by Ali Ozbek's pharmacy. I will contact my local Councillor!

I’ve thought the same for a number of years. The one-man-band road sweeper approach only seems to amount to litter picking. The worst of it is that the really nasty dust & dirt tends to be blown by the wind if actual sweeping takes place. I am sure that air quality would be improved were the streets to be cleaned thoroughly by machine instead of allowing the filth to continue in an endless cycle of being stirred up and redeposited. 

Ironically, walking home last night, I saw a street sweeper!! 

I'd be happy to try and help bring this issue to the forefront more. I emailed the council (earlier this year) re the issue but think it may be something that has to wait until after the election now. Any help from others annoyed by the issue/tips and pointers would be great! 

Been here (the Ladder) 30 years TBD. Think I'm the one who needs the rest.
You realise they are swilling down Chien poo?
Rather like Green Lanes then

I live on Maryland Road further up green lanes by Myddleton Road - a couple of weeks ago on a Saturday one of these machines DID come down our street, the first time I've ever seen one. And, our road, which like lots of Haringey streets has problems with litter - often after Veolia has emptied the bins...., looked properly CLEAN for the first time ever. Never seen it before around here, nor since but it made a huge difference to our otherwise lovely street.

Could it be a manifestation of the different social contract the French have with each other?

That and the narrow streets.  And the fact that where you're staying looks like part of the reason Paris attracts more foreign visitors than the entire population of France each year.

Imagine if Harringay attracted such huge numbers (with the attendant hotels, etc) - what a fundamentally different place it would be.

Their popularity allowed them to follow our Ally Pally a few years later with a 'Grand Palais' bang in the middle of the city, kick-starting 50 years of magnificent art exhibitions - we could have done that had our visitor numbers permitted - like Ally Pally, they also used it for military purposes:

What else strikes you as a desirable import?

We had new pavements last year and already now they are blemished by gum, cigarette butts from houses where the residents smoke outside, and general litter dropping.  It would be great with deep cleans even greater if people cared for their environment.  I have just come back from Denmark and much as I love London the dirt always shocks me

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