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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Hi
Just wanted to warn people to be vigilant as my neighbour on pemberton road was burgled yesterday evening. Someone kicked her front door in at around 7pm.

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Oh gosh thanks for the warning.

Kerri. Glad you flagged this. There were apparently 8 separate actual or attempted burglaries *last night alone* in the Ladder area, and my neighbour (also Pemberton) suffered an attempted burglary last week (while 4 others were also reported that same night). There is clearly a spate of burglaries happening in the neighbourhood.

My neighbour was saved by the fact that they had a strong Yale lock protected by a London Bar which stopped the perp getting in.

A few things spring to mind:

  • Use your mortise lock- always! Yale locks will offer no protection at all as a modest kick to the door will pop most Yale locks off
  • The two burglaries I have been aware of have both been in buildings with a recessed door (ie the door is set back from the front of the building in the original style, and so the perp can step into the porch and have some modest screening as they do what they are doing. I am not sure if this is true in all cases, but it strikes me that there is sense in attacking homes where the burglar can get in without being seen...
  • Both burglaries that I am aware of are flats. I suspect this may be coincidence, but it strikes me that:
    1. Once inside a house with more than one flat a burglar may have twice as much opportunity to find what you are looking for
    2. There is less chance of being seen kicking in internal doors
    3. Given the way folks come and go in a communal area like a main front door space, there is a good chance the mortise lock has been left unlocked
    4. Internal doors may often be quite weak and poor quality, and not able to resist being bashed in...
  • There may be two guys working in a team. One outside keeping watch while the other is inside, so keep an eye on someone loitering in your or a neighbour's front garden that looks out of place. I suspect the advice should be not to challenge them, but make a note (mental... or otherwise) of their appearance and call the cops!
  • I am not sure what time the attempt was made on my neighbour last week, but the twilight period may be a particularly risky time of day, folks moving to and from work, and it not being too out of place for people who are not your neighbours to be on the street and moving about?
  • I get the impression that the they burglaries are highly opportunistic, and they may well be an in, grab what you can quick and scarper within 60 seconds job.

Might be worth the SNT team making some kinds of statement and offering a little advice at this point, anyone out there SNT?

That is interesting about the Yale locks. I'm on Eade road in a flat conversion and came downstairs one day last week to find the guy downstairs asking if i knew why our Yale lock was off the door and lying on the floor and the door only kept closed by the second lock. Will remind everyone to keep using the mortise lock!

I think most burglaries are opportunistic, but maybe this spate shows a slightly different MO. When we were getting quotes for an alarm to be fitted a few years ago, the salesman suggested the mostly likely entry point was the rear of the property, with the burglar typically heading for the bedroom where valuables such as jewelry, cash and maybe passports are kept. In our ladder of terraced houses I always thought the more likely entry was at the front. And these days I think the typical opportunist thief might head towards the living room or kitchen where they'd expect to find an iPad or similar product?

BTW the locksmith on Green Lanes sells london bars, same price as online I think. NFI.

Hate to be the bearer of another bit of bad news, but we were done over last week too. It was a quick grab with only a laptop and mobile snatched, so Justin's observation that they're 60 second jobs seems on the mark.

Please be en guarde folks and do stop and chat to neighbours. If these rogues return and think they're being closely observed they'll make themselves scarce.

You can get good apps for an ipad these days that start recording video when movement is detected I've got my trained on the back window and the bird feeder the other side to see what's been twitching at my window when I'm out. But with a little bit of clever positioning it could be a handy security tool ....

I think it's also possible to get an app to send you a text when something has been detected and for you to check and see what's triggered it whilst at work.

I use 'air beam'.

Do you think that perhaps the iPad might be stolen in any burglary?

Well ...

1) The technology these days can allow the video stream to be uploaded straight away.
2) if you're clever you can position the iPad sneakily so they can't see it
3) If it does get nicked, you can track where its gone, so you have half a chance at catching them.

So the ipad can mean, if they nick it, you've got their picture and maybe even their location. If everyone in green lanes had an ipad set up well, you would find those feckers quite quickly.

An old iphone can be a great security accessory as well. .

I thought the streaming is for live pictures only. If your video is being recorded to a remote server, I'd have thought that there would certainly be a monthly fee, but what do I know.

Perhaps you could tell me which app you have in mind. If I can remote record motion detected video when the house is empty for a £2.99 purchase price, with this current spate of burglaries, I'm in.

Icam or splashtop cam seem popular. You can fix it up so every baby monitor or lap top in the house is guarding the place. Just google security cam and have looksy.

I'm not sure which is the best because as off yet I've just been interested in capturing my feathered thieves on air beam, ( which isn't streamed) although it was offering some sort of upgrade the other day .... However given the situation I think it might be time to get the house 'online' when I am at work too, so anymore idea's from others I would like to know myself.

Some apps just take a photo and email it to you, others steam it all whenever the sensor gets tripped.

More about air beam here, it seems it can email also ...

http://appologics.com/?site
Videography actually seems to be the one that can email and upload sensor footage to drop box, made by the same firm.

I remembered something like this from a while back where a guy used a programme on his stolen Mac to track the thief a.... Not sure what app is used, but it looks like a good idea to install it. Anyone got any better suggestions?

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