Close Pass Cycle Law Coming? - Harringay online2024-03-28T21:09:25Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/close-pass-cycle-law-coming?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1120188&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFrom the bottom of the food c…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-22:844301:Comment:11206312018-09-22T09:44:20.598Zpatrick byrnehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/patrickbyrne
<p>From the bottom of the food chain - a pedestrians view.</p>
<p>If we are going to introduce another cute, unenforceable law, lets broaden it further to "protect" the most vulnerable participants in the "road wars" - the pedestrians.</p>
<p>As one of this endangered species, I have developed techniques of self preservation over my many years and can usually spot cars, vans, trucks and buses which may constitute a danger to me.</p>
<p>But cyclists - that's another matter, as I cannot hear…</p>
<p>From the bottom of the food chain - a pedestrians view.</p>
<p>If we are going to introduce another cute, unenforceable law, lets broaden it further to "protect" the most vulnerable participants in the "road wars" - the pedestrians.</p>
<p>As one of this endangered species, I have developed techniques of self preservation over my many years and can usually spot cars, vans, trucks and buses which may constitute a danger to me.</p>
<p>But cyclists - that's another matter, as I cannot hear their silent approach and because of where they emerge from they are often invisible to me until the last minute.</p>
<p>I propose adding some additional clauses to the proposed law:</p>
<p>1) Cyclists on footpaths must limit their speed to to max 10mph.</p>
<p>2) Cyclists on footpaths must give at least one meter clearance to pedestrians on the footpath.</p>
<p>3) Cyclists travelling the incorrect direction on one-way streets must give way to pedestrians crossing the road.</p>
<p>4) Cyclists travelling in the centre of the road at pedestrian crossings must give way to pedestrians.</p>
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<p>Just a few our ideas from the front line for our legislators to consider.</p>
<p></p> Fining drivers sounds great i…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-21:844301:Comment:11204012018-09-21T07:36:31.388Ztighahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/tigha
Fining drivers sounds great idea although no idea how they can enforce it<br />
I sustained a fractured skull several years back when a driver passed me to close on seven sisters road, so it’s mirror caught my handle bars. The one day I stupidly wasn’t wearing a helmet<br />
Yes a life changing injury but I’m luckily still here
Fining drivers sounds great idea although no idea how they can enforce it<br />
I sustained a fractured skull several years back when a driver passed me to close on seven sisters road, so it’s mirror caught my handle bars. The one day I stupidly wasn’t wearing a helmet<br />
Yes a life changing injury but I’m luckily still here @DavidJ ... spot on ... and w…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-20:844301:Comment:11202812018-09-20T20:14:10.969Zmatthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/mburge
<p>@DavidJ ... spot on ... and watch out for traffic coming the other way</p>
<p>@DavidJ ... spot on ... and watch out for traffic coming the other way</p> Presumably, the 'overtaking c…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-20:844301:Comment:11202082018-09-20T18:14:14.111ZMartin (Woodside)https://harringayonline.com/profile/MartinIles
<p>Presumably, the 'overtaking clearance' will be strictly enforced by a depleted police force with 'dam busters' gap-measuring equipment that can pin the motoring offence down to the millimetre. Another invention I like is the cycle 'green space', it gives cars the opportunity to pass the stopped traffic over the white lines and cut into the space to beat the queue, a commonly observed practice, again with no enforcement. Personally, I've always given cyclists (which I have been myself) not…</p>
<p>Presumably, the 'overtaking clearance' will be strictly enforced by a depleted police force with 'dam busters' gap-measuring equipment that can pin the motoring offence down to the millimetre. Another invention I like is the cycle 'green space', it gives cars the opportunity to pass the stopped traffic over the white lines and cut into the space to beat the queue, a commonly observed practice, again with no enforcement. Personally, I've always given cyclists (which I have been myself) not only good space, but room enough for a sideways fall.</p> Is this controversial??
Not a…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-20:844301:Comment:11203762018-09-20T17:23:06.721ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p><em>Is this controversial??</em></p>
<p>Not at all. I fully agree. And, if in doubt, hang back.</p>
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<p><em>Is this controversial??</em></p>
<p>Not at all. I fully agree. And, if in doubt, hang back.</p>
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<div class="description" id="desc_844301Comment1120251"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><em>"Yes, this is the reality. Also a car/van/truck on London's narrow roads giving a cyclist a metre as they pass has to first work out whether that means crossing into oncoming traffic, which includes motorbikes coming up the outside ... oh and road warriors in lycra." </em></p>
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<p>I'm not quite sure what point you are making but - yes cars should make a proper overtaking manoeuvre if they are passing a bike when they are sharing the same traffic lane. This should involve checking that there is proper space to do so before overtaking. </p>
<p>Is this controversial??</p>
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<p></p> A lot longer than me, certain…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-20:844301:Comment:11201902018-09-20T15:51:51.946ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>A lot longer than me, certainly :)</p>
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<p>A lot longer than me, certainly :)</p>
<p></p> . . . . but probably not so l…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-20:844301:Comment:11202622018-09-20T15:48:06.779ZOld-Age-Emporium(OAE)https://harringayonline.com/profile/OldAgeEmporiumOAE
<p>. . . . but probably not so long as the philistines, though I suppose some cyclists must also be philistines.</p>
<p>. . . . but probably not so long as the philistines, though I suppose some cyclists must also be philistines.</p> I have no idea what material,…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-20:844301:Comment:11201882018-09-20T15:47:18.971ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>I have no idea what material, straw or otherwise, this fella is made of but he regularly dawdles along Green Lanes in a sit up bike with a basket on the front. Getting caught behind him even with the current road regulations is a right pain the arse. He’s not the only one. There’s the woman with the big flowery dress who enjoys a meander too and the man with his kids in a sort of wheelbarrow stuck to the front of his bike.</p>
<p>The point is that 50 odd people on a bus should take…</p>
<p>I have no idea what material, straw or otherwise, this fella is made of but he regularly dawdles along Green Lanes in a sit up bike with a basket on the front. Getting caught behind him even with the current road regulations is a right pain the arse. He’s not the only one. There’s the woman with the big flowery dress who enjoys a meander too and the man with his kids in a sort of wheelbarrow stuck to the front of his bike.</p>
<p>The point is that 50 odd people on a bus should take absolute priority over one person on a bike and the passing distance would make that difficult in many circumstances in built up city like London. Not every cyclist is road racing to work. Some are having a bit of a pedal about. Or is that a straw man too?</p> As I've said, e-bikes are com…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-20:844301:Comment:11202592018-09-20T14:26:57.781ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>As I've said, e-bikes are coming. 4 miles an hour is such a straw man too, that's walking pace.</p>
<p>As I've said, e-bikes are coming. 4 miles an hour is such a straw man too, that's walking pace.</p>