Consultation Deadline - Application for Finsbury Park Neighbourhood Forum - (including Finsbury Park) - Harringay online2024-03-29T10:18:31Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/consultation-deadline-finsbury-park-neighbourhood-forum-to-includ?feed=yes&xn_auth=noLink to the final set of docu…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-12-01:844301:Comment:11370372018-12-01T06:40:23.288ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>Link to the final set of documents below (the ones starting FPSG - scroll all the way to the bottom of the page)</p>
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<p>Link to the final set of documents below (the ones starting FPSG - scroll all the way to the bottom of the page)</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.islington.gov.uk/planning/Neighbourhood-Planning" target="_blank">https://www.islington.gov.uk/planning/Neighbourhood-Planning</a></p> Whoever typed out my response…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-28:844301:Comment:11223182018-09-28T17:47:35.008ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>Whoever typed out my response doesn’t know the difference between Haringey and Harringay it seems. Anyway, good decision.</p>
<p>Whoever typed out my response doesn’t know the difference between Haringey and Harringay it seems. Anyway, good decision.</p> Just had a chance to skim thr…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-28:844301:Comment:11223062018-09-28T16:04:20.946ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Just had a chance to skim through the minutes and noticed the following:</p>
<p><em><span style="font-weight: inherit;">The decision to not include the Park in the designation was not based on the consultation responses but on a separate governance duty to ensure that local influence is maintained in the Park</span></em></p>
<p><em>'not based on the consultation responses' -</em> I wonder why this is emphasised? Do they protest too much or is there some other logic? (There were, by the way,…</p>
<p>Just had a chance to skim through the minutes and noticed the following:</p>
<p><em><span style="font-weight: inherit;">The decision to not include the Park in the designation was not based on the consultation responses but on a separate governance duty to ensure that local influence is maintained in the Park</span></em></p>
<p><em>'not based on the consultation responses' -</em> I wonder why this is emphasised? Do they protest too much or is there some other logic? (There were, by the way, only 19 responses. Of those, seven were by large organisations like Historic England, one from a councillor (Barbara Blake) and only 11 from residents.)</p> Thanks for the update, Tris.…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-28:844301:Comment:11222832018-09-28T14:20:16.695ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Thanks for the update, Tris. Good decision. </p>
<p>Thanks for the update, Tris. Good decision. </p> Precisely. The decision to i…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-05-18:844301:Comment:10831292018-05-18T20:56:34.155ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>Precisely. The decision to include the Park was made by those wishing to set up an NF, not the FoFP. Including Metropolitan open space requires justification and the NF needs to explain why it is a good thing for all those in the area. The only justification I’ve seen is “<span><em>As for the park itself - the reason for including it as a whole was because that was the express desire of the Friends of Finsbury Park</em>“. And it does seem that the desire to include the FoFP was the…</span></p>
<p>Precisely. The decision to include the Park was made by those wishing to set up an NF, not the FoFP. Including Metropolitan open space requires justification and the NF needs to explain why it is a good thing for all those in the area. The only justification I’ve seen is “<span><em>As for the park itself - the reason for including it as a whole was because that was the express desire of the Friends of Finsbury Park</em>“. And it does seem that the desire to include the FoFP was the deciding factor as Arcady says above “<em>Members of the Friends of Finsbury Park, regardless of where they live, will have influence on FSPGNF as we expect them to be an affiliate member of the Forum. That would be less true of the park were excluded!”</em></span></p> Again, that's a rather extrem…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-05-18:844301:Comment:10832612018-05-18T19:42:33.339ZArkadyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Arkady
<p>Again, that's a rather extreme characterisation of what I said. Perhaps best to let them clarify their position.</p>
<p>Again, that's a rather extreme characterisation of what I said. Perhaps best to let them clarify their position.</p> Arcady, I am concerned when y…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-05-18:844301:Comment:10831222018-05-18T18:11:10.984ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>Arcady, I am concerned when you say the the FoFP have insisted on the inclusion of the park as their “price” for cooperating with the NF. The park does not belong to them and it is not for them to decide on this approach. The park an asset for all those who live and work around it. Including it for no valid reason but the wishes of a friends group is wholly unacceptable.</p>
<p>Arcady, I am concerned when you say the the FoFP have insisted on the inclusion of the park as their “price” for cooperating with the NF. The park does not belong to them and it is not for them to decide on this approach. The park an asset for all those who live and work around it. Including it for no valid reason but the wishes of a friends group is wholly unacceptable.</p> Neighbourhood Forums have an…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-05-18:844301:Comment:10832572018-05-18T17:56:02.373ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>Neighbourhood Forums have an explicit role in the development of Haringey’s Local Plan which is the overriding plan for the borough. The local plan has specific policies for the use and development of Finsbury Park including open space and biodiversity policies and possible future policies regarding culture and leisure use so yes, the Neighbourhood Forum would be major influencers in these areas.</p>
<p>Neighbourhood Forums have an explicit role in the development of Haringey’s Local Plan which is the overriding plan for the borough. The local plan has specific policies for the use and development of Finsbury Park including open space and biodiversity policies and possible future policies regarding culture and leisure use so yes, the Neighbourhood Forum would be major influencers in these areas.</p> I wonder if a solution might…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-05-18:844301:Comment:10831152018-05-18T17:43:25.261ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>I wonder if a solution might be then to redraw the boundary to only include the fringes of the park that border the NF area?</p>
<p>I wonder if a solution might be then to redraw the boundary to only include the fringes of the park that border the NF area?</p> Hi Tris
If you have a peruse…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-05-18:844301:Comment:10832472018-05-18T17:04:05.240ZArkadyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Arkady
<p>Hi Tris</p>
<p>If you have a peruse of our boundary justification document I'm sure you'll appreciate that that is very far from being a fair categorisation. We've been extraordinarily careful (vastly more than most any other proposal, from what the Council officers tell us) to reflect people's views when forming the boundary, and this is just the latest round of consultation.</p>
<p>I'm open to correction on this, but I'm not sure that the Localism Act gives a neighbourhood Plan any say at…</p>
<p>Hi Tris</p>
<p>If you have a peruse of our boundary justification document I'm sure you'll appreciate that that is very far from being a fair categorisation. We've been extraordinarily careful (vastly more than most any other proposal, from what the Council officers tell us) to reflect people's views when forming the boundary, and this is just the latest round of consultation.</p>
<p>I'm open to correction on this, but I'm not sure that the Localism Act gives a neighbourhood Plan any say at all on events in the park anyway. It gives powers over <em>development planning.</em> And as the park is Metropolitan Open Land that would be extremely limited power in the park itself. The Friends' main concern from the perspective of a Neighbourhood Plan is to prevent inappropriate development on the fringe of the park, and in that sense our proposed boundaries would give us no say at all on developments in <em>Harringay </em>(though some in Haringey!).</p>