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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Hi all

There's an owner of a dog who lives near somewhere close to where Allison Road meets Wightman Road and I have two issues:

1) the owner knowingly lets it foul on the pavement - I've witnessed it firsthand a few times

2) I'm fairly convinced (though could be wrong) it's an illegal pit bull terrier (and un-neutered at that)

I've reported it to the Council and, outside their own target response time, got a fairly useless reply that can be summed up as "reported ... to the Street Enforcement Team Ward Officer ... who will... determine the most appropriate course of action. The officer will contact you if further information is required"

I shan't hold my breath for Gotham's finest to spring into action based on that somniferous edict.

Has anyone got any advice on how to deal with the matter and.or experience of this dog/owner?

Thank you 

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I reported the same dog fouling to the Council on 10th February, as it has been left right outside our front door a couple of times. I believe the dog is a Neapolitan mastiff and responds to the name Prince. The owner doesn’t seem to have him on a leash either, at least not the few times I have seen them. I haven’t got an answer from the Council yet. 

Thanks Elena

Did you report it here?: https://eforms.secure.haringey.gov.uk/ufs/ASB.eb?ebd=0&ebp=10&a...

My reply wasn't quick but was quicker than yours if so!

I often see people here advise a local councillor to escalate it to - perhaps someone can help?

No, I reported it through the "Our Haringey " app. I'll log it via the eforms link too. Thanks

We have also been experiencing problems with this particular dog owner at the top of Hewitt Road. I assume he lives on the Wightman Road stretch between Hewitt and Allison. Unfortunately the owner isn’t the kind of person I would confront on the matter but I will report it.

Well put Shazia. Although having seen the dog up close, i'd rather confront the owner than the dog itself!

Appreciate you reporting it and let's hopefully sort this together.

Hi, yes, this dog lives in one of the flats in the house that is on Wightman Road on the corner of Allison, the one that is raised up high. It is NEVER on a lead and has scared me/my family on a number of occasions. Having been attacked by a dog on Wightman Road before whilst jogging I'm petrified that this dog could attack, especially given the amount of small children etc. The dog fouling is yet just another problem but I think I would be be too scared to confront. 

Horrible to hear that Grace. 

Please do report it too: https://eforms.secure.haringey.gov.uk/ufs/ASB.eb?ebd=0&ebp=10&a...

I can only hope the more of us that act, the better our chances of resolution

Hi all,

Somewhat relieved to read this thread as we’ve been unsure what steps to take with this dog owner.  We have also experienced the dog fouling right outside our house on several occasions - we are pretty sure this happens at night time as the fouling appears first thing in the morning and I’m often out very early.

I’ll also complain through the link.  As a dog owner, I don’t understand why you’d leave it!

Thanks Anka

I appreciate and share the concern for the dog and agree the animal is in no way to blame, regardless of the situation. The blame is roundly on the owner. However, I don't agree with your logic. I believe: 

1) If people have reasonable grounds to suspect it to be an illegal breed, they should report it. I'd rather be wrong (as I might be in this case, as I made clear in my first post) than not report it and potentially regret it should it later prove to be an illegal breed by way of attacking someone.

2) If it's found not to be a dangerous breed, of course, it won't be put down. I'm sure the authorities make certain before taking such last resort action (as they of course should).

I'm not seeking to be disparaging about your concern for the dog, I share it. But I do want to make clear why I think it's worth saying something and being wrong over not saying anything because we're scared to be wrong.

Illegal may mean nothing to you but it means a lot to most of us. It means that someone with far greater expertise than you or me has done a great deal of research and found that the scientific evidence shows breeds such as pit bulls are too dangerous to be legal. It's that simple.

Prior to the Dunblane Massacre in 1996, the majority of people in the UK who owned handguns did so safely and those people were not dangerous. But that's not good enough. Handguns were banned because it's impossible to tell 1 dangerous person amongst 1000 safe people. You'd be hard-pressed to find someone who's pro-handguns in the UK despite the fact most people who owned one were safe. It's the same principle.

There's three things to say about labrador attacks compared to pit bull attacks:
1) There are far far far more labradors so the fact more people are bitten by them doesn't mean they're more likely to bite. 

2) The second-highest number of attacks is from a breed that's very rare (partly because it's illegal). That indicates just how much more likely they are to attack.

3) look at the list of deaths from dogs in the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_Unit...

Not a single labrador. Several put bulls. Mainly illegal breeds.

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