HarringayOnline is not what it used to be for politics - Haringey cabinet sackings edition - Harringay online2024-03-28T18:22:24Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/harringayonline-is-not-what-it-used-to-be-for-politics-haringey?xg_source=activity&id=844301%3ATopic%3A1143343&feed=yes&xn_auth=noActually I am wrong. The lead…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-01-14:844301:Comment:11449282019-01-14T11:26:52.414ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>Actually I am wrong. The <a href="https://minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=3944&T=6" rel="noopener" target="_blank">leader</a> and his wife (Councillor <a href="https://minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=1530&T=6" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Anne Stennett</a>), own a house in Tottenham freehold. They own a flat in Muswell HIll leasehold but rent together elsewhere in Muswell Hill. This is all on their declarations but it's complicated and I am a bit…</p>
<p>Actually I am wrong. The <a href="https://minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=3944&T=6" target="_blank" rel="noopener">leader</a> and his wife (Councillor <a href="https://minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=1530&T=6" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Anne Stennett</a>), own a house in Tottenham freehold. They own a flat in Muswell HIll leasehold but rent together elsewhere in Muswell Hill. This is all on their declarations but it's complicated and I am a bit thick.</p>
<p>Anne's brother-in-law, <a href="https://minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=3944&T=6" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mark Blake</a> owns in Muswell HIll.</p>
<p>I think the other councillor with kids at the school would be <a href="https://minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=3935&T=6" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Pat Berryman</a> and he owns in Muswell Hill too.</p> Thanks for getting back to me…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-01-14:844301:Comment:11450762019-01-14T08:12:45.767ZAlan Stantonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AlanStanton
<p>Thanks for getting back to me. <br></br>Let me confess that I'm an unreconstructed leftover from the twentieth century.<br></br> I still think the seven "Nolan" Principles of Public Life (1995) are a useful guide. <br></br><br></br>● Honesty<br></br>● Integrity<br></br>● Accountability<br></br>● Leadership<br></br>● Openness<br></br>● Selflessness<br></br>● Objectivity.<br></br><br></br>Yes, I realise. Such quaint old-fashioned thinking. Long since updated, modernised and simplified. The current Haringey Seven Principles.</p>
<p>Leader.…</p>
<p>Thanks for getting back to me. <br/>Let me confess that I'm an unreconstructed leftover from the twentieth century.<br/> I still think the seven "Nolan" Principles of Public Life (1995) are a useful guide. <br/><br/>● Honesty<br/>● Integrity<br/>● Accountability<br/>● Leadership<br/>● Openness<br/>● Selflessness<br/>● Objectivity.<br/><br/>Yes, I realise. Such quaint old-fashioned thinking. Long since updated, modernised and simplified. The current Haringey Seven Principles.</p>
<p>Leader. Leader. Leader. Leader. Three. Bags. Full.</p> I'll have a think about it. I…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-01-14:844301:Comment:11451702019-01-14T07:24:06.194ZBurgoyne Bechttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RebeccaPaton
<p>I'll have a think about it. I haven't looked at the Act since it was reformed post removal of the Audit Commission. </p>
<p>I'll have a think about it. I haven't looked at the Act since it was reformed post removal of the Audit Commission. </p> I've been thinking along the…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-01-14:844301:Comment:11449202019-01-14T07:17:13.191ZAlan Stantonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AlanStanton
<p>I've been thinking along the same lines, <a href="https://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=10nz5djj8xjq8" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Burgoyne Bec</a>.<br></br>Would you like to say a little more on your thinking about such a referral to the external auditors? And which specific section or sections of the guide you have in mind? <br></br><br></br>Seems to me that part of the problem is gathering enough information to make a case which the auditors are likely to…</p>
<p>I've been thinking along the same lines, <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=10nz5djj8xjq8" target="_blank">Burgoyne Bec</a>.<br/>Would you like to say a little more on your thinking about such a referral to the external auditors? And which specific section or sections of the guide you have in mind? <br/><br/>Seems to me that part of the problem is gathering enough information to make a case which the auditors are likely to take seriously. Zena Brabazon has had (several days late) only the first tranche of the information she requested from senior council staff as a formal member (councillor) enquiry.<br/><br/></p>
<p class="meanings-body">Meanwhile Joe Ejiofor has used his privileged access to both the the Tottenham and Hornsey Wood Green Labour membership databases to send out personal emails to the several thousand local Party members with his one-sided version of events. In which truth-telling by Cllr Zena Brabazon and Cllr Peray Ahmet is hinted as leaking or attempts to destabilise his leadership. <br/><br/>Classical <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ad%20hominem" target="_blank" rel="noopener">"ad hominem"</a> distraction technique. Avoiding the risk that people may see this as a the simple notion that schools should be about teaching and learning. Not property development. And certainly not a highly risky £35.9 million property speculation scheme. Where as far as I can see, Haringey Council takes on the risk in order - so it's claimed - to get fourteen Council homes at nil cost.<br/><br/>There's an old proverb that: <em>"a fish stinks first at the head".</em> Which I've read is inaccurate, since the guts of a dead fish rot and smell before the head. It seems to me that in local government the whole "Leader/Cabinet" system stinks to high heaven.<br/><br/><em>[My political declaration as required by HoL rules is <a href="https://www.harringayonline.com/profiles/profile/show?id=AlanStanton&" target="_blank" rel="noopener">on this page</a>]</em></p> *Salisburytag:harringayonline.com,2019-01-13:844301:Comment:11450182019-01-13T23:40:45.067ZKeats Pereirahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/KeatsPereira
<p>*Salisbury</p>
<p>*Salisbury</p> John I checked out that bar y…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-01-13:844301:Comment:11449112019-01-13T21:20:02.543ZKeats Pereirahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/KeatsPereira
<p>John I checked out that bar you mentioned. Kooooool vibes. People were kool in there. Friendly just like it should be. Half a black turned into a pint. I've never seen the Sainsbury with her lights on. She looked classy sexy. 4 charity shop everyone in there kool (people talk to each other in charity shops) needed something from my phone printed off. a kool hong kong brother sorted it for me. Ooo Indian food (indika) popped in for menu Indian brother was kool (Bangladeshi chef) ooo…</p>
<p>John I checked out that bar you mentioned. Kooooool vibes. People were kool in there. Friendly just like it should be. Half a black turned into a pint. I've never seen the Sainsbury with her lights on. She looked classy sexy. 4 charity shop everyone in there kool (people talk to each other in charity shops) needed something from my phone printed off. a kool hong kong brother sorted it for me. Ooo Indian food (indika) popped in for menu Indian brother was kool (Bangladeshi chef) ooo nuts. Went in to the nut shop... I think shed had a long day but thats still a lot of "kool" Kings kebab. Round the back there could tell you some stories. Park road junk shop (the man before the last man) where did he go? The shop that fixed the tellys and videos cross the road from the Salisbury. The greek brother that had the flower shop. The greek brothers in the butcher's. Many pool cafes. The snooker club spent a good few nights/mornings up there. I like Harringay then and now. I'll be taking my lady to indika restaurant soon. Shes from Bangladesh and she knows her food I warned the chef:-) I will be back. </p> Envy? Although I do know thre…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-01-13:844301:Comment:11450622019-01-13T19:37:03.462ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>Envy? Although I do know three of them rent in Muswell Hill but own in Tottenham.</p>
<p>Envy? Although I do know three of them rent in Muswell Hill but own in Tottenham.</p> Has anyone contacted the audi…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-01-13:844301:Comment:11448942019-01-13T13:55:07.221ZBurgoyne Bechttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RebeccaPaton
<p>Has anyone contacted the auditor to review the decision?</p>
<p>There is a useful and little known power to do so in the Audit Act. <a href="https://www.nao.org.uk/code-audit-practice/council-accounts-a-guide-to-your-rights/" target="_blank">https://www.nao.org.uk/code-audit-practice/council-accounts-a-guide-to-your-rights/</a></p>
<p>Has anyone contacted the auditor to review the decision?</p>
<p>There is a useful and little known power to do so in the Audit Act. <a href="https://www.nao.org.uk/code-audit-practice/council-accounts-a-guide-to-your-rights/" target="_blank">https://www.nao.org.uk/code-audit-practice/council-accounts-a-guide-to-your-rights/</a></p> Peter Chalk, the total so far…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-01-12:844301:Comment:11445112019-01-12T00:18:39.895ZAlan Stantonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AlanStanton
<p>Peter Chalk, the total so far is £35.9m not £40m. (Though of course not every building project always comes in on time and on budget.)<br></br><br></br>The number of Council Houses which Honest Joe claims for the project is actually 68 market and 14 council. (See <a href="https://www.harringayonline.com/xn/detail/844301:Comment:1144291" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Zena's comment</a> above.) <br></br><br></br>But in any case the claim made by Joe is the that the deal <em>"would be self-financing".…</em></p>
<p>Peter Chalk, the total so far is £35.9m not £40m. (Though of course not every building project always comes in on time and on budget.)<br/><br/>The number of Council Houses which Honest Joe claims for the project is actually 68 market and 14 council. (See <a href="https://www.harringayonline.com/xn/detail/844301:Comment:1144291" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Zena's comment</a> above.) <br/><br/>But in any case the claim made by Joe is the that the deal <em>"would be self-financing".</em> And that "<em>the Council gets its money back in full</em> ". <br/><br/><em>So no risk; no loss.</em><br/><em>Step right up. Everyone's a winner</em><br/><em>Bargains galore</em><br/> <em>That's right you too can be the proud owner of</em><br/> <em>The quality goes in before the name goes on</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>£35.9 million</em><br/><em>We got service after the sale</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>We've got an year end clearance</em><br/><em>You can drive it away today.</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>Act now and receive as our gift to you.</em><br/> <em>They come in all colors.</em><br/> <em>One size fits all</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>50% off original retail price</em><br/> <em>Skip the middle man</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>Don't settle for less.</em><br/> <em>How do we do it?</em><br/> <em>You've heard it advertised</em><br/><em>don't hesitate</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>that's right it fillets</em><br/> <em>it chops, it dices, it slices</em><br/> <em>it never stops</em><br/> <em>lasts a lifetime, it mows your lawn</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>it picks up the kids from school</em><br/><em>it delivers the pizza</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>And it's only £35.9m</em><br/><em>Step right up</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>If not completely satisfied</em><br/> <em>mail back unused portion of product for a complete refund of price of purchase.</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>Don't be fooled by cheap imitations</em></p>
<p class="verse"><em>The large print giveth and the small print taketh away.<br/>_______________</em></p>
<div style="overflow: hidden; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_snSkpULQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Listen on YouTube: Tom Waits - Step Right up.</a></div> Houses on school playing fiel…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-01-11:844301:Comment:11447992019-01-11T15:34:33.794ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>Houses on school playing fields? Where have we heard that before?</p>
<p>Houses on school playing fields? Where have we heard that before?</p>