Ladder and Gardens now only cleaned ONCE a week - Harringay online2024-03-28T11:24:55Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/ladder-and-gardens-now-only-cleaned-once-a-week?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A846253&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSince the decision was made b…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-03-21:844301:Comment:8506212016-03-21T10:57:41.110ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>Since the decision was made by our elected members ( Councillors, I assume ) could they step up and justify it ?</p>
<p>Since the decision was made by our elected members ( Councillors, I assume ) could they step up and justify it ?</p> How could he hope that this…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-03-21:844301:Comment:8508232016-03-21T10:47:40.385ZPenguinhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/richard249
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<p>How could he hope that this would be a satisfactory answer!?</p>
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<p>How could he hope that this would be a satisfactory answer!?</p> Thanks Matt
Would be great to…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-03-20:844301:Comment:8506462016-03-20T00:17:34.395ZDanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Dan192
<p>Thanks Matt</p>
<p>Would be great to know how many FPNs were issued in 2015. Where and what for - just out of curiosity. </p>
<p>I'm not sure of the 'why' for the second part of the response. What is producing '<span>documentation on how they dispose of their waste and challenge illegal deposit of waste' going to achieve? I wonder is this a legal requirement or intended as some kind of commitment device - as it sounds like it could be a costly administration process for the council and…</span></p>
<p>Thanks Matt</p>
<p>Would be great to know how many FPNs were issued in 2015. Where and what for - just out of curiosity. </p>
<p>I'm not sure of the 'why' for the second part of the response. What is producing '<span>documentation on how they dispose of their waste and challenge illegal deposit of waste' going to achieve? I wonder is this a legal requirement or intended as some kind of commitment device - as it sounds like it could be a costly administration process for the council and businesses alike, with very little proven outcome.</span></p>
<p><span>Just a thought...</span></p>
<p></p> This was my response from the…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-03-18:844301:Comment:8499652016-03-18T10:40:24.483ZMatthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/MattGamble
<p>This was my response from the council when I complained about the litter sweeping schedules ! (they have prob spend all the money on their new logo!):</p>
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<p>Many thanks for your email. We have had the opportunity to investigate your complaint and can advise accordingly:</p>
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<p>Our sweeping arrangements have been realigned in partnership with Veolia, this was a decision made by elected members to help with efficiencies.</p>
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<p>This was my response from the council when I complained about the litter sweeping schedules ! (they have prob spend all the money on their new logo!):</p>
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<p>Many thanks for your email. We have had the opportunity to investigate your complaint and can advise accordingly:</p>
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<p>Our sweeping arrangements have been realigned in partnership with Veolia, this was a decision made by elected members to help with efficiencies.</p>
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<p>The Neighbourhood Action Team do issue Fixed Penalty Notices for dropped litter, we also ask businesses to produce documentation on how they dispose of their waste and challenge illegal deposit of waste.</p>
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<p>I do hope I have answered your enquiry to your satisfaction.</p>
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<p>Yours sincerely,</p>
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<p></p> When Green lanes was revamped…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-03-08:844301:Comment:8470042016-03-08T22:38:44.210ZMaddyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/SleepingBeauty
<p>When Green lanes was revamped they removed quite a few litter bins, including the one next to the bus stop near Barclays, in consequence of which the bus stop is always awash with litter.</p>
<p>When Green lanes was revamped they removed quite a few litter bins, including the one next to the bus stop near Barclays, in consequence of which the bus stop is always awash with litter.</p> Hi Souvarine
It's the norm fo…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-03-08:844301:Comment:8471462016-03-08T20:05:45.243ZDanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Dan192
<p>Hi Souvarine</p>
<p>It's the norm for Brits to put out tongue-in-cheek slogans to try and galvanise people to a common cause. As opposed to sitting contrary to a culture of acceptable littering (at a macro level), I would argue it sits alongside - even amongst! My earlier point is that in Britain the social design (incentives, cultural norms, etc) makes littering easy and salient. Still I hope it works and those in the palace see a problem. </p>
<p>At least there is no correlation - it would…</p>
<p>Hi Souvarine</p>
<p>It's the norm for Brits to put out tongue-in-cheek slogans to try and galvanise people to a common cause. As opposed to sitting contrary to a culture of acceptable littering (at a macro level), I would argue it sits alongside - even amongst! My earlier point is that in Britain the social design (incentives, cultural norms, etc) makes littering easy and salient. Still I hope it works and those in the palace see a problem. </p>
<p>At least there is no correlation - it would appear - between house prices and street waste! </p>
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<p></p> Hello was this petition start…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-03-06:844301:Comment:8462532016-03-06T19:42:26.226ZHSThttps://harringayonline.com/profile/HST
Hello was this petition started? I would like to sign it. Twice a week cleaning at least meant that there was some element of cleanliness. Living off green lanes means there is an insane amount of rubbish that flows into the resident roads not to mention how much rubbish is around after the bins are collected each week...
Hello was this petition started? I would like to sign it. Twice a week cleaning at least meant that there was some element of cleanliness. Living off green lanes means there is an insane amount of rubbish that flows into the resident roads not to mention how much rubbish is around after the bins are collected each week... "An easy diversion", for swee…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-02-28:844301:Comment:8441082016-02-28T20:44:46.415ZAlan Stantonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AlanStanton
<p><em>"An easy diversion"</em>, for sweepers up and down the "head roads" adjacent to Green Lanes, Richard? Before making that assumption aren't there some useful questions to be asked?</p>
<p>Such as if and by how much the Council have reduced the amount they pay Veolia (in response to the cuts in Government grant). Whether or not Veolia have cut the numbers of their staff who sweep or pick litter? Or perhaps their rates of pay? <br></br>Also, if and on what date staff were instructed to reduce…</p>
<p><em>"An easy diversion"</em>, for sweepers up and down the "head roads" adjacent to Green Lanes, Richard? Before making that assumption aren't there some useful questions to be asked?</p>
<p>Such as if and by how much the Council have reduced the amount they pay Veolia (in response to the cuts in Government grant). Whether or not Veolia have cut the numbers of their staff who sweep or pick litter? Or perhaps their rates of pay? <br/>Also, if and on what date staff were instructed to reduce sweeping or litter picking along the first sections of the "head roads". You're clearly right that whichever High Road I know in the East of the borough the head roads tend to accumulate litter or dumping. Or simply get stuff blown there.</p>
<p>Another set of questions might be asked about the numbers of enforcement staff who chase infringements of the rules - whether by residents, landlords, traders, or drive-by litterers/dumpers. As I recall these teams have been reduced. (Usually with some smoke and mirrors PR about how they've been improved.<br/><br/>I hope I'd be the last person to suggest that because some suggested solution hasn't always worked in the past, that it shouldn't be tried again - possibly with some new variation. On the other hand, you might find it's helpful to explore the back pages of HoL where there are many discussions about the litter and dumping problem. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/dear-councillors-please-organise-for-a-clean-green-lanes" target="_blank">This discussion thread for instance.<br/></a> <br/>Somewhere (I can't spot the link yet) Liz Ixer gave us an illuminating ethnography of local dumping. Including her observation of fast-foodies eating in their cars after visiting the "street food" pop-along take-aways, only to toss the leavings in gutters or pavements. After all, people need their cars neat and tidy.</p> Thanks Charlotte. Please can…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-02-28:844301:Comment:8440962016-02-28T19:51:34.412ZPenguinhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/richard249
<p>Thanks Charlotte. Please can you complain to the council? The more of us that do it the better result we can hope to get. Thank you!</p>
<p>Thanks Charlotte. Please can you complain to the council? The more of us that do it the better result we can hope to get. Thank you!</p> Our ladder road has definitel…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-02-27:844301:Comment:8436772016-02-27T09:10:16.763ZCharlottehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/dane66
<p>Our ladder road has definitely got worse. </p>
<p>Our ladder road has definitely got worse. </p>