completely agree. cockneys are just depressing.
do they ever turn the lights on?
Don't be such a snob, Matt. Loads of people (average 5m per episode) watch the show up and down the country. Most of them don't watch it "just cause it's there". It may not be your taste but you don't get to speak for the 5m. And it does showcase new, emerging writing and directing talent. Constantly.
Happy Valley was indeed excellent but there was not a whiff of emerging talent about it. And there were 6 episodes per series - not the 200+ episodes per year that EE produces. Which is a remarkable feat. I'm sure Sally Wainwright (writer of HV who learnt her craft on 'soaps') would probably agree with me that EE provides a vital role for fledgling talent and caters to many people who enjoy just that type of story.
I didn't really mean to cause as much offence as you took in the first instance, so I'm glad you edited your post. My apologies for causing such a strong reaction from the word - snob. It was meant a little more light-heartedly than I think it was taken.
My point is that, whatever your background, it doesn't stop you being culturally elitist. Not that you necessarily are. But there's a subtext in your original post that this type of TV (with its cliches etc) is somehow not culturally or artistically valuable.
But if 5m licence payers find it entertaining on a regular basis - surely that's enough? This kind of populist TV has a place. And per hour of TV and per capita, it's incredibly good value for money. £15m for over 200 hours of TV ?! Happy Valley cost £6m for 6 hours. If you were arguing that EE doesn't match up to Corrie or Emmerdale then I would have more sympathy with that argument. But my guess is you don't watch soaps at all - please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm a big fan of supporting emerging talent but there is no better training for TV writers than on soaps. And writing is where it's at on television. Getting to write for 5m viewers, undergoing a thorough writing process and getting that immediate public response back on Twitter is invaluable.
There are many opportunities for emerging talent elsewhere. Tons actually. And tbh 'little' production companies don't get screwed over by the BBC. Unless you're referring to something specific. Actually, independents do pretty well out of the BBC.
You've just called an Australian "culturally elitist". PMSL. Hilarious!!!!