I've had problems adding comment on the proper events page, IT defeats me, so have cut, pasted and edited.
I really just wanted to say that I am going to this hugely important meeting. It is a Public planning "consultation" on plans to change the use of St Anns Hospital - site to sell off 2/3rds of it for Housing. ALL without checking what services we actually need. Did you know that life expectancy figures drop as you go further east in the borough? apho.org.uk/resource/view.aspx?RID=142310 …
Do you want an improved hospital with an Urgent Care Centre,more GPs, and a Child Health Centre? Have your say.
Please come: Chestnuts Community Centre 280 St Anns Road N15 5BN at 7oopm
Barnet Enfield and Haringey Mental Health Trust hold this NHS land "on our behalf."
As I commented on the event page, this must be just about the least publicised meeting of the year.
7pm on what day? Today?
Event listing here.
Yes. today. Hope you can make it.
they will do the usual, make out some consultation, then sell off what they can get away with, when you consider how most residents will not have the time or inclination to go over all the planning, steam rollering as per usual, its as corrupt as it gets living under a Condem Government and an apathetic political society or not even necessary apathetic but over worked paying for the overpriced rents in the area, no question St Anns requires developement but not at a price of losing public land, in fact must be made more open and available for use of all the community, considering that it is public/common land. The police station ideal for a community centre, just saying..., will be at the meeting, grrrrr.... like I'm not tired enough caring for neighbours in spare time, I think its called care in the community, presently 3 every day to deal with, if i was paid, i could afford to pay the rent ffs! rant over.... keep em poor, that way no time to be aware of sell offs to the private sector, it is a National Health not a Private Sell Off, what a bunch of Condems we have at the mo.
Hi, Did you go? A friend didn't because she knew not contain her anger. Proved what a farce "consultation" is. Such a gap between rosy-tinted plans/pics and what is needed.
Did you go Johnson? Anything you can share about what was said? Sadly with the notice available, I couldn't attend.
How was the meeting? I would have liked to go along but have only heard about it now. Can someone give some feedback who went. Cheers.
HaringeyNeeds St Annes Hospital (HaNSAH) will write a report and post it here. In essence it raised more questions than it answered. There was confusion from council about actually when the planning deadline. There were some really powerful speakers from the floor, personal experience and facts - about lack of mental health care facilities, as well as beds, things like therapy;no s The alarming drop in numbers of social workers in the borough; young families being priced out of area .All grim stuff which the council HAS to listen to and respond to. There was some local coverage:
There were more questions than answers at the packed but ultimately frustrating St Anns “Consultation” meeting on 16 July.
There was lots of passionate and concerned questioning from members of public and hospital users about health,the housing on the site , the impact on local schools etc countered by bland, bureaucratic or evasive answers from the BEH/Planning bureaucrats!
Im from a Haringey Needs St Anns Hospital group so I will concentrate on health. We would welcome other comments about what you felt about this “consultation”meeting.
People there wanted to know what evidence was used to show that the site was surplus to requirements in an area of high health inequalities. Why there was no new services like an Urgent care centre or a much needed GP surgery included in the plans to counter these inequalities?
What planning for health has been made for the future?.Why weren’t the Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG)who control the financing of local services there to answer questions ? If mental health is already oversubscribed as a patient reported why aren’t more acute wards being built and much needed recovery house places made available? BEH said that if services like a GPs surgery was needed there was space there –though they might have to knock down a building to construct that. That’s like saying if we get more patients at our A&E in future we’ll bolt on more wards to the Department!
The much trumpeted modern en suite facilities in mental health were not as important to a patient as access to a therapist and her concerns about the future.
There appeared a very “not me guv” approach from BEH. They could only put the small amount of services on the site because that’s the only money thats available from selling off Our NHS land for housing with no guarantee of how much will be so called “affordable”. Its all the Councils or the CCG s responsibility. That’s not good enough when there are obvious health needs in the Borough especially with 10,0000 new homes being built in East Haringey.
So we are calling for the Council/BEH/the CCG to do a Health Needs Assessment-a health check- before this plan goes through .
What You Can Do Even though the consultation officially closes in 2 days time (!) -who was informed ?–you can object but as soon as possible but at least by 1 August 2014 to the Planning Sub Committe who decide on St. Anns Future. If you want better hospital facilities at St Anns have your say !
Under “the New St Anns DAS” pdfs
And Objection are made via at http://haringey.gov.uk/application_comments
Thanks that will be really useful. HANSAH has a petition which can still be circulated: We call for a halt to the plans to sell off NHS land at St Ann's Ho...