St Anns Hospital Sell OFF - did you know? - Harringay online2024-03-28T21:40:22Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/st-anns-hospital-sell-off-did-you-know?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A652736&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks that will be really us…tag:harringayonline.com,2014-11-21:844301:Comment:7021632014-11-21T10:36:26.730Zre johnsonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/rejohnson
<p>Thanks that will be really useful. HANSAH has a petition which can still be circulated: <a href="https://www.change.org/p/we-call-for-a-halt-to-the-plans-to-sell-off-nhs-land-at-st-ann-s-hospital-in-haringey-to-property-developers-instead-we-call-for-improved-health-services-on-the-site-now-and-for-the-forseeable-future" id="yiv9075488520yui_3_16_0_1_1416466351270_22091" name="yiv9075488520yui_3_16_0_1_1416466351270_22091" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">We call for a halt to the plans to…</a></p>
<p>Thanks that will be really useful. HANSAH has a petition which can still be circulated: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.change.org/p/we-call-for-a-halt-to-the-plans-to-sell-off-nhs-land-at-st-ann-s-hospital-in-haringey-to-property-developers-instead-we-call-for-improved-health-services-on-the-site-now-and-for-the-forseeable-future" id="yiv9075488520yui_3_16_0_1_1416466351270_22091" name="yiv9075488520yui_3_16_0_1_1416466351270_22091">We call for a halt to the plans to sell off NHS land at St Ann's Hospital in Haringey to property developers. Instead we call for improved health services on the site now and for the forseeable future!</a></p> The deadline to respond was e…tag:harringayonline.com,2014-11-21:844301:Comment:7020512014-11-21T08:51:29.494Zmatthew cuthberthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/matthewcuthbert
The deadline to respond was extended to Nov 18th, but I believe that legally the council must accept objections up until committee, which is not unusual. I'll qualify point this with the council.
The deadline to respond was extended to Nov 18th, but I believe that legally the council must accept objections up until committee, which is not unusual. I'll qualify point this with the council. tbf - It might say more about…tag:harringayonline.com,2014-07-18:844301:Comment:6534072014-07-18T15:43:35.211ZGordon Curtishttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GordonCurtis
<p>tbf - It might say more about my attitude than theres, I'd approach it with the attitude that its reasonable for one to attend on behalf of all.</p>
<p>But as you say, it is such a serious issue for the St Anne's ward that all should have been there, no excuses?</p>
<p>tbf - It might say more about my attitude than theres, I'd approach it with the attitude that its reasonable for one to attend on behalf of all.</p>
<p>But as you say, it is such a serious issue for the St Anne's ward that all should have been there, no excuses?</p> If that is true, it's bloody…tag:harringayonline.com,2014-07-18:844301:Comment:6533792014-07-18T14:05:54.400ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>If that is true, it's bloody disgraceful. I hope all Harringay voters will remember this next election.</p>
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<p>If that is true, it's bloody disgraceful. I hope all Harringay voters will remember this next election.</p>
<p></p> Fair enough, but at least its…tag:harringayonline.com,2014-07-18:844301:Comment:6533342014-07-18T12:58:05.514ZGordon Curtishttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GordonCurtis
<p>Fair enough, but at least its a concrete response rather than assumption and hear-say.<br/>But if its all based on insinuation rather than response, it becomes a little too conspiracy-theory and stops serious issues from being treated, well, seriously...</p>
<p>Fair enough, but at least its a concrete response rather than assumption and hear-say.<br/>But if its all based on insinuation rather than response, it becomes a little too conspiracy-theory and stops serious issues from being treated, well, seriously...</p> Peter Morton's response. Soun…tag:harringayonline.com,2014-07-18:844301:Comment:6531372014-07-18T12:43:09.738ZGordon Curtishttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GordonCurtis
<p>Peter Morton's response. Sounds reasonable enough to me?</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/pjmmor/status/490114046231068672">https://twitter.com/pjmmor/status/490114046231068672</a></p>
<p>Peter Morton's response. Sounds reasonable enough to me?</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/pjmmor/status/490114046231068672">https://twitter.com/pjmmor/status/490114046231068672</a></p> Seemingly poor show indeed. H…tag:harringayonline.com,2014-07-18:844301:Comment:6533542014-07-18T12:38:11.730ZGordon Curtishttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GordonCurtis
<p>Seemingly poor show indeed. Has anyone contacted the other 2 to find out why they missed it?</p>
<p>Seemingly poor show indeed. Has anyone contacted the other 2 to find out why they missed it?</p> Unfortunately Harringay's thr…tag:harringayonline.com,2014-07-18:844301:Comment:6533432014-07-18T12:09:25.997ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>Unfortunately Harringay's three Labour councillors were unable to attend because a local Labour Party member had thrown them a party to celebrate their election on that night.</p>
<p>Unfortunately Harringay's three Labour councillors were unable to attend because a local Labour Party member had thrown them a party to celebrate their election on that night.</p> There were more questions tha…tag:harringayonline.com,2014-07-18:844301:Comment:6531192014-07-18T11:21:53.122ZRod Wellshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RodWells
<p><b>There were more questions than answers at the packed but ultimately frustrating St Anns “Consultation” meeting on 16 July.</b></p>
<p>There was lots of passionate and concerned questioning from members of public and hospital users about health,the housing on the site , the impact on local schools etc countered by bland, bureaucratic or evasive answers from the BEH/Planning bureaucrats!</p>
<p>Im from a Haringey Needs St Anns Hospital group so I will concentrate on health. We…</p>
<p><b>There were more questions than answers at the packed but ultimately frustrating St Anns “Consultation” meeting on 16 July.</b></p>
<p>There was lots of passionate and concerned questioning from members of public and hospital users about health,the housing on the site , the impact on local schools etc countered by bland, bureaucratic or evasive answers from the BEH/Planning bureaucrats!</p>
<p>Im from a Haringey Needs St Anns Hospital group so I will concentrate on health. We would welcome other comments about what you felt about this “consultation”meeting.</p>
<p> People there wanted to know what evidence was used to show that the site was surplus to requirements in an area of high health inequalities. Why there was no new services like an Urgent care centre or a much needed GP surgery included in the plans to counter these inequalities?</p>
<p> What planning for health has been made for the future?.Why weren’t the Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG)who control the financing of local services there to answer questions ? If mental health is already oversubscribed as a patient reported why aren’t more acute wards being built and much needed recovery house places made available? BEH said that if services like a GPs surgery was needed there was space there –though they might have to knock down a building to construct that. That’s like saying if we get more patients at our A&E in future we’ll bolt on more wards to the Department!</p>
<p>The much trumpeted modern en suite facilities in mental health were not as important to a patient as access to a therapist and her concerns about the future.</p>
<p>There appeared a very “not me guv” approach from BEH. They could only put the small amount of services on the site because that’s the only money thats available from selling off Our NHS land for housing with no guarantee of how much will be so called “affordable”. Its all the Councils or the CCG s responsibility. That’s not good enough when there are obvious health needs in the Borough especially with 10,0000 new homes being built in East Haringey.</p>
<p>So we are calling for the Council/BEH/the CCG to do a Health Needs Assessment-a health check- before this plan goes through .</p>
<p><b>What You Can Do</b> Even though the consultation officially closes in 2 days time (!) -who was informed ?–you can object but <b>as soon as possible</b> but at least by 1 August 2014 to the Planning Sub Committe who decide on St. Anns Future. <b>If you want better hospital facilities at St Anns have your say ! </b></p>
<p><b>Rod HaNSAH</b></p>
<p><b>Plans are at</b> <u><a href="http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID=274419">http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID=274419</a></u></p>
<p>Under “the New St Anns DAS” pdfs<br/> <b>And Objection are made via</b> <b>at </b><a href="http://haringey.gov.uk/application_comments" target="_blank">http://haringey.gov.uk/application_comments</a></p>
<p><b>Hansah</b> information on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/HaringeyNeedsStAnnsHospital" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/HaringeyNeedsStAnnsHospital<br/></a> <b>Email:</b> <a href="mailto:haringeyneedsstannshospital@gmail.com">haringeyneedsstannshospital@gmail.com</a>.</p> HaringeyNeeds St Annes Hospit…tag:harringayonline.com,2014-07-18:844301:Comment:6529792014-07-18T08:30:59.981Zre johnsonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/rejohnson
<p>HaringeyNeeds St Annes Hospital (HaNSAH) will write a report and post it here. In essence it raised more questions than it answered. There was confusion from council about actually when the planning deadline. There were some really powerful speakers from the floor, personal experience and facts - about lack of mental health care facilities, as well as beds, things like therapy;no s The alarming drop in numbers of social workers in the borough; young families being priced out of area .All…</p>
<p>HaringeyNeeds St Annes Hospital (HaNSAH) will write a report and post it here. In essence it raised more questions than it answered. There was confusion from council about actually when the planning deadline. There were some really powerful speakers from the floor, personal experience and facts - about lack of mental health care facilities, as well as beds, things like therapy;no s The alarming drop in numbers of social workers in the borough; young families being priced out of area .All grim stuff which the council HAS to listen to and respond to. There was some local coverage: </p>
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