The Great Harringay Smog- Saturday 29th Sept 2018 - Harringay online2024-03-28T15:14:23Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/the-great-harringay-smog-saturday-29th-sept-2018?feed=yes&xn_auth=noJust a thought but analysis m…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-06:844301:Comment:11241332018-10-06T11:08:48.907ZRichard Woodshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RichardWoods
<p>Just a thought but analysis might pin down the source?</p>
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<p>Just a thought but analysis might pin down the source?</p>
<p></p> Yes, and I remember walking t…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-06:844301:Comment:11241682018-10-06T08:35:29.128ZAlysonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AlysonBradley
<p>Yes, and I remember walking to primary school during a few of these!</p>
<p>Yes, and I remember walking to primary school during a few of these!</p> I'm sure this has already bee…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-05:844301:Comment:11241472018-10-05T18:16:45.308ZAlice Bhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AliceBlachford
<p>I'm sure this has already been done (but just ensuring I have the full set of facts) but has anyone spoken to Devran and heard what they have said? Would be good to understand from them the cause of the smog</p>
<p>I'm sure this has already been done (but just ensuring I have the full set of facts) but has anyone spoken to Devran and heard what they have said? Would be good to understand from them the cause of the smog</p> 1952 - this is a smog....
tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-05:844301:Comment:11237352018-10-05T09:16:33.008ZRichard Woodshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RichardWoods
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2162883252?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2162883252?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" class="align-full" width="721"/></a>1952 - this is a smog....</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2162883252?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2162883252?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" class="align-full" width="721"/></a>1952 - this is a smog....</p>
<p></p> Thanks Justin. As always, you…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-03:844301:Comment:11232932018-10-03T10:45:56.014ZRuthhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Ruth70
<p>Thanks Justin. As always, you are community minded and active, much appreciated. </p>
<p>Thanks Justin. As always, you are community minded and active, much appreciated. </p> It may do. If we get Councill…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-03:844301:Comment:11231262018-10-03T10:21:43.619ZJustin Guesthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JustinGuest
<p>It may do. If we get Councillors and officers to come and meet us in the day we may look to bring them to someone's home to see for themselves what we are talking about... I will let you know.</p>
<p>It may do. If we get Councillors and officers to come and meet us in the day we may look to bring them to someone's home to see for themselves what we are talking about... I will let you know.</p> Does the thick black dust I c…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-03:844301:Comment:11230162018-10-03T10:20:15.809ZRuthhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Ruth70
<p>Does the thick black dust I clean from around my flat count as empirical evidence? I could send them a whole pile of filthy dusters. I think of that stuff going into my lungs.... </p>
<p>Does the thick black dust I clean from around my flat count as empirical evidence? I could send them a whole pile of filthy dusters. I think of that stuff going into my lungs.... </p> Simple answer is yes (and no)…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-03:844301:Comment:11232212018-10-03T09:59:47.445ZJustin Guesthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JustinGuest
<p>Simple answer is yes (and no). A few residents have been discussing this for a while and we (which includes the LCSP and GRA reps) have engaged with Councillors on both sides of GL to try to see what can be done.</p>
<p>Initial feedback was not massively positive. I need to go back to the emails we have had to pull out exactly what we ahve been told can/cannot be done. However, this will revolve around having council Officers see the issue for themselves. I am sure we would be happy to…</p>
<p>Simple answer is yes (and no). A few residents have been discussing this for a while and we (which includes the LCSP and GRA reps) have engaged with Councillors on both sides of GL to try to see what can be done.</p>
<p>Initial feedback was not massively positive. I need to go back to the emails we have had to pull out exactly what we ahve been told can/cannot be done. However, this will revolve around having council Officers see the issue for themselves. I am sure we would be happy to support this on both sides of GL, and I asked for the number of someone who might be prepared to come on an evening, possibly at a weekend and potentially at short notice... You see where this begins to fall down a little!</p>
<p>Lets see where this gets us. Mean time we have discussed finding a research group that might be able to go beyond the NOx monitoring the LCSP have been carrying out to assess the levels of particulate matter (which is the really dangerous stuff that is causing the smog/haze you see). I am meeting with an old tutor from Imperial later this week for example to see if we can find a way to gather some empirical evidence, as opposed to this just being seen as another <em>unsubstantiated moan fest but a few self appointed individuals</em>. Hopefully some empirical information may allow us to drive things a little.</p>
<p>Don't get me wrong, I am not averse to these guys operating, far from it. But if they are using wet wood as it seemed at the weekend that simply has to stop for starters. Their profits cannot come at a cost to well-being of residents who were here long before, and will likely be here long after, these restaurants and their shareholders are in the picture.</p> I have to admit to feeling a…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-03:844301:Comment:11232182018-10-03T09:49:02.711ZJustin Guesthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JustinGuest
<p>I have to admit to feeling a bit of a hypocrite here Ruth. I love the kebabs from these places.</p>
<p>However I do not think it unreasonable that they act as good neighbours. If I have a dog, I do not let it crap in your garden. Worse, this (and I do not want to sound hysterical about this) is a genuine health hazard, not just an inconvenience...</p>
<p>I have to admit to feeling a bit of a hypocrite here Ruth. I love the kebabs from these places.</p>
<p>However I do not think it unreasonable that they act as good neighbours. If I have a dog, I do not let it crap in your garden. Worse, this (and I do not want to sound hysterical about this) is a genuine health hazard, not just an inconvenience...</p> True Justin. Even with window…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-02:844301:Comment:11232742018-10-02T20:09:12.987ZRuthhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Ruth70
<p>True Justin. Even with windows closed, it gets in and there is always a layer of black dust around my place. You can see it in the lamplight on many nights. It's an awful form of pollution that never gets mentioned let alone tackled. We are breathing this junk everyday! </p>
<p>True Justin. Even with windows closed, it gets in and there is always a layer of black dust around my place. You can see it in the lamplight on many nights. It's an awful form of pollution that never gets mentioned let alone tackled. We are breathing this junk everyday! </p>