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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

I saw this a few moments ago, discussion of introducing a new close pass law to fine drivers £100 if they do not give cyclists sufficient room when passing. I was amazed by how many people are hurt on bikes each year, and these are just the ones that get reported, how many close calls are there as well:

"Recent figures released by the Department for Transport showed there were 18,450 pedal cyclist casualties in the year ending September 2017, of which 3,750 (20 per cent) were killed or seriously injured. Around 100 cyclists are killed in the UK every year"

I guess the key to this and its success will be the video camera evidence we can all conjure up after a close call.

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OK, one last point though. The growth in e-bikes and micro-mobility in general is incredible. Follow @asymco on Twitter for more. I do understand your point about slow cyclists but I have my eye on the future.

I’ve got my eye on the bus I use John.  

Would this mean that in the morning while going down the bus lane on Green Lanes the 50 or so of us passengers will have to go at the same speed as the fella is always seems to be heading the same way as me and going at a leisurely 4 miles an hour?  

Pulling out into the lane of cars (if possible) would completely negate the purpose of the bus lane but there is no way in the world the bus could give him the proposed minimum clearance space.

Yes, this is the reality. Also a car/van/truck on London's narrow roads giving a cyclist a metre as they pass has to first work out whether that means crossing into oncoming traffic, which includes motorbikes coming up the outside ... oh and road warriors in lycra. 

As I've said, e-bikes are coming. 4 miles an hour is such a straw man too, that's walking pace.

I have no idea what material, straw or otherwise, this fella is made of but he regularly dawdles along Green Lanes in a sit up bike with a basket on the front.  Getting caught behind him even with the current road regulations is a right pain the arse.  He’s not the only one. There’s the woman with the big flowery dress who enjoys a meander too and the man with his kids in a sort of wheelbarrow stuck to the front of his bike.

The point is that 50 odd people on a bus should take absolute priority over one person on a bike and the passing distance would make that difficult in many circumstances in built up city like London.  Not every cyclist is road racing to work.  Some are having a bit of a pedal about.  Or is that a straw man too?

Re John's David and Goliath comment - The Israelites and the Philistines were in a state of war. Is that how you see the cyclist / motorist road sharing situation John McM ?

That's not necessary for the comparison to be valid. I think cyclists will be around a lot longer than motorists though.

. . . . but probably not so long as the philistines, though I suppose some cyclists must also be philistines.

A lot longer than me, certainly :)

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Reply by matt 4 hours ago

"Yes, this is the reality. Also a car/van/truck on London's narrow roads giving a cyclist a metre as they pass has to first work out whether that means crossing into oncoming traffic, which includes motorbikes coming up the outside ... oh and road warriors in lycra."  

I'm not quite sure what point you are making but  - yes cars should make a proper overtaking manoeuvre if they are passing a bike when they are sharing the same traffic lane. This should involve checking that there is proper space to do so before overtaking. 

Is this controversial??

Is this controversial??

Not at all. I fully agree. And, if in doubt, hang back.

@DavidJ ... spot on ... and watch out for traffic coming the other way

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