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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Anyone else livid about this? The BBC announce that the over 75s now have to pay the licence fee literally days after the D-Day 75th anniversary. So the heroes they interviewed during the celebrations last week could now face paying a fee. They served and put their lives on the line as well as paid the fee for decades.

Well done the BBC your compassion is noted

@boycottthelicencefee.

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So maybe we should just privatise it then, ditch the public service and get ads, ads, ads, all over the screen?

The quality of some of the programming has gone down recently. They seem to be chasing the commercial channels in the down-with-quality race, especailly with their reality programming. Let's not talk about the inability to call out lies and 'fact fabrication' from the politicians appearing on so many news programmes.

I would love to be able to continue to pay the licence fee when I eventaully move out of Brexitland, just to be able to continue looking at all the BBC channels.

Hold on, the absolute youngest a person could have been to have been involved in D-Day is 93 (assuming 18 in 1944). So by your logic Alan shall we just pay for the TV licences of those who "might" have fought in the war?

Or is this nothing to do with those who fought in a war 75 years ago and just about your prejudice towards the BBC? There's an awful lot of opinion presented as fact in that last wall of text...

Have you worked for the BBC or are you basing your comments on what you've read in the Daily Mail?  £3 or so a week seems like a bargain for everything the BBC offers, if you'd worked there you'd know that most of the employees don't earn that much, get minimal pay rises, no bonuses - taxi use is strictly controlled (would you want your daughter making her own way home through london after working a late shift?) and the last years have seen cut after cut across the organisation. And believe me, the offices are far from luxorious.

I can never understand why people have this image of a bloated corporation living off the fat of the licence fee, it's very far from that these days. And as the right wing are always complaining it's too lefty, and the left wing are always complaning it's too righty, I'd say that is a fair sign they're getting it about right. 

I agree Michaela. I would happily pay £3 a day just to watch BBC 4 alone, to say nothing of Radio 3. And the over 75s have always paid, and will continue to pay, for the " independent " channels through the advertising budgets of the consumer products.

I have never fought in any kind of war Dave but by the time I’m 75 I will have paid for a TV licence for 54 years (I bought my first at 21) so will have paid more than £8,000 at today’s licence cost. If I live for a few more years after that I think I’ve earned a free bloody licence.

Strange that. Most of those who actually did put 'their lives on the line' (born pre-1928) and who are sadly now 99,5% pushing up the daisies, were no doubt all in favour of the BBC and its licence fee. All the ones I knew were.

Free TV licences and free public transport are really just  'government get outs' to the real problem of decent state pensions. Start paying the over 65-70s decent state pensions, give them back their pride and do away with these demeaning benefits. The U.K. has lousy state pensions! https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/dec/05/oecd-uk-has-lowest-st...

Yes indeed. But it is so much easier to get upset about the smaller picture diversionary tactics.

Brexit will make England Grate again!

As we have one of the lowest state pensions in Western Europe combined with one of the highest cost of living, it may come to that. 

So in order to catch out a handful of 75+ multi millionaires over 3 million must go through means testing?  The level now set for being entitled to a free licence is being over 75 AND having an income no greater than about £165 per week in total. 1 million are already at that level and at least a million more just creep over so their few quid extra lands them with a £150 bill. It’s utterly pathetic 

The only test being proposed is receipt of pension credit.  Only the very poorest get that.  Setting an income means test would require to applicant to provide proof of all income and savings.  The resultant bureaucracy would not only be difficult for some older people to navigate (there is already a massive under claiming of benefits by older people), it would cost a significant amount.  All of this for a free TV licence that someone 75+ will enjoy for 5 years (male) or maybe 10 years (female) if they are lucky.

It is estimated by Age U.K. that older people contribute in excess of £2 billion in unpaid work per year, things like caring for an adult, looking after grandchildren and volunteering.  A small recognition of this is peanuts compared to what they do and have given.

Right, I have never claimed benefit for anything at all in my long lifetime.  Made my own way, as did almost all of my generation.

I really do not understand this fuss!

If you can afford to pay for it you should. Why should over 75s be exempt but not students?

Of course, if you show me that the means testing costs more than the money saved, then I would find it absurd.

There are many well off pensioners. This has nothing to do with who fought the war or anything else.

The bigger problem is how to fund proper social care for all, including in old age. That is a fight to put your energies into!

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