LCSP Meeting: Minutes

LADDER COMMUNITY SAFETY PARTNERSHIP
MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD ON
Thursday 10th November 2011
ST PAUL’S CHURCH HALL
Present:
Ian Sygrave, Chair Burgoyne Rd NHW
Eileen O’Dwyer, Vice Chair Falkland Road NHW

Gill Pengelly Umfreville Rd NHW/V.Chair Govs, S Harringay Sch.

Maria Longo Wightman Rd, N8 NHW

Peter Lorimer Burgoyne Rd NHW

Sue Grant Falkland Rd, NHW

Michael Kleanthus Cavendish Rd, NHW

Rev. A. Ige Harringay United Church

Geraldine Bethune Burgoyne Road NHW

Matt Cuthbert Hewitt Rd

and other local residents
1. Apologies
Gina Adamou, Karen Alexander, David Schmitz, Nilgun Canver (Councillors), Joanne McCartney (GLA), Glyn Kelly (Harringay SNT), Pauline Syddell (Borough NHW Coordinator), Helen Wang (Sydney Rd), Neil Harlan (Umfreville Rd NHW/LCSP Secretary), Geoffrey Winston (Beresford Rd NHW), Fr. Philip Atherton (St Paul’s Church), Roger Topping (Woollaston Rd NHW).
2. Minutes of the last meeting: agreed.
3. Crime Information: Update from SNT
PC Kelly was unable to attend, but had provided the Chair with the following information:
Reported crime during the previous 4 weeks
Burglaries: 9: Endymion x2, Falkland, Hampden x2, Fairfax, Sydney (Wordsworth House), Pemberton, Alfoxton Ave.
A pleasing return to single figures and the lowest number for some months. Largest number was via rear door/window; please check the security at the back of your property, especially if you are close to Harringay Passage, the New River, or have a side entrance. Unfortunately, one successful burglary was carried out by fake Water Board Officials; please be alert, especially on behalf of vulnerable neighbours.
Robberies: 10: Finsbury Park/Endymion Rd x4, St Margaret’s Ave, Burgoyne, Park, Duckett, Raleigh, Effingham.
A higher number than usual. Most took place very late (early hours of the morning), with four in and around Finsbury Park. Please be aware of your surrounding and do not make a display of valuable goods.
Two suspects have been arrested in connection with the Finsbury Park incidents.
Motor Vehicle crime: 7 (6 theft of vehicle, 1 theft from vehicle)
Theft of vehicle: Allison x2, Falkland, Umfreville, Pemberton, Frobisher.
Theft from/criminal damage to vehicle: Warham.
An unusual month, with half a dozen thefts of motor cycles, mostly lifted into the back of a van, as the bikes had been padlocked and secured. Please chain bikes to a lamppost or a secure fixing. The SNT have contacted all owners of poorly secured motorbikes and given security advice.
In addition it was noted:
- SNT had carried out a series of late shifts over Halloween and Guy Fawkes; also followed up intelligence to carry out surveillance of certain local hot-spots.
- After an outbreak of graffiti in the Passage, the Chair had reported the location of 19 ‘tags’ to Veolia for removal, and to the SNT for their records/identification. Veolia had done an excellent job in cleaning them off within a few days.
4. Outer London Fund – Round 2 Bid
The Chair explained an exciting bid for funding the improvement of Green Lanes from the Mayor’s Outer London Fund. The bid has been led by the Traders’ Association, with help and support from the Green Lanes Strategy Group. A draft copy of the bid was available at the meeting, and explained by the Chair:
The submission focuses on three main aspects to regenerate Green Lanes:
- The railway bridge as the southern gateway (cleaning, painting, lighting).
- A ‘shop front’ project (new shop fronts, fascias, cleaned facades and stucco, new canopies.
- The improvement of the public urban realm (new lighting, planting, under-lighting).
Further sections in the submission include:
- The local community and community cohesion.
- Site uses.
- Public and private open space.
- Existing achievements to build on (e.g. Food Festival).
- Location and specific urban/historical context of Green Lanes.
- Sustainability and delivery strategy.
- Timetable (work to be completed by 2014).
- Risk assessment and costings.
- The bid will be delivered to the Mayor on Monday 14th November, and we should know the outcome before Christmas.
- Residents fully endorsed the bid and saw it as a marvellous opportunity to secure some serious funding for the regeneration of Green Lanes.
5. Harringay Christmas Festival Sat 10/Sun 11 December
- Plans are well underway for a special Christmas event on Mattison Road.
- The aim is to have an ice-rink in the junior school playground, with associated attractions and stalls in Mattison Road itself, linking the school to Green Lanes. This involves the closure of Mattison Road to through traffic, with parking restricted to the top end, nearest to Wightman Road. Residents have been consulted, and agreed to the event.
- Planned attractions include Santa’s Grotto, a photo-booth, and a 1950s style mobile cinema, showing film ‘shorts’ for 22 people at a time.
- Final confirmations have yet to be agreed, but organisers are hopeful that this event will go ahead as planned.
6. Falling masonry in Green Lanes
- After the massive collapse and fall of masonry at 423 Green Lanes on 28th Oct (above the Rose Bakery, close to Cavendish Road), the Chair had written to the borough’s Head of Building Control to express residents’ concerns for their safety. He has responded as follows:
Building Control was notified by the Police at approximately 15:45 of the incident and one of my Senior Surveyors was on site within 15 minutes. He went up on the Fire Brigade’s hydraulic platform and checked the decorative render features of the adjacent buildings which visually appeared satisfactory and ensured that there was no further loose debris from 423 Green Lanes waiting to fall.
Building Control will be sending out letters to the owners/occupiers of the similar properties in Green Lanes, advising them to get their buildings checked by suitably qualified persons to ensure that their condition is safe. In addition Building Control identified further imminently dangerous masonry at another property (which we removed yesterday afternoon) and other properties where the owners will be requested to carry out a detailed inspection of their properties within 21 days.

I would again reiterate that the maintenance and repair of private properties is the ‘owners’ responsibility and as such all owners should regularly inspect their properties.
- The Chair noted that if residents have any concerns about a specific building they should immediately contact LBH by email at: building.control@haringey.gov.uk or by phone 020 8489 1000.
Residents appreciated the efforts made by LBH, but raised two further questions:
- Will there be a follow-up to ensure that owners have indeed carried out an inspection after 21 days, and what sanctions are available to LBH if not?
- Concern was also expressed about the difficulty of ensuring that letters actually reached the owners of properties in Green Lanes, who often lived abroad and were difficult to trace.
7. The future of the St Ann’s Hospital site
- The Barnet, Enfield and Haringey Mental Health NHS Trust are starting to meet the local community about the future of the St Ann’s Hospital site.
- The Chair noted he had attended a very well supported stakeholder workshop in October, organised by the Trust.
- Following on from these initial consultations, there will be a full scale, open to the public, consultation, probably between Nov 2011 and Feb 2012, after which the Trust will make final plans with other NHS bodies and LBH (probably Mar – Sep 2012).
- “No decision on services or the site’s future will be made until after the public consultation.”
- “There are no plans to close the St Ann’s site and there will continue to be a range of health services provided on the site.”
- The chair distributed further background documents/information at the meeting and urged all ladder residents to take part in the public consultation once it begins later in the year.
8. AOB - Planning application: 677 Green Lanes, N8 (The Queens Head pub):
- This application will be decided by the Planning Sub-Committee of LBH on Monday 14th Nov.
- The Chair had written to express residents’ concerns regarding the façade of this locally listed building, and the importance of preventing the upper units from becoming a series of HMOs or hostel-type accommodation.
- LBH and the applicants have now clearly addressed these issues, and the planning application makes clear that:
o The façade and the extension will be restored and sympathetic, with approval from the conservation area officer.
o The accommodation is for 7 self contained 2-bed flats and 1 self contained 3-bed flat.
o The site will be car-free, with cycle racks provided.
o The applicant will be asked to provide section 106 funding for education (£24K), new paving (£6.5k) and amendment of parking orders to reflect the car free site (£1k)
- In the light of these clarification and proposals, the meeting agreed that the LCSP would no longer ask the Chair to attend the Planning Meeting to express concerns which had now been addressed.
Date and Venue of Next Meeting
THURSDAY 8th December 2011
7PM
ST PAUL’S CHURCH HALL
special Christmas meeting, with wine and nibbles