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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

As has been highlighted within another HOL discussion today a petition is putting forward the idea of setting up London as a City State with its own powers & linking the City back into the EU. No doubt a fanciful idea but, at the very least, by many of us signing it, we send a strong signal to the rest of the country that London residents see an EU exit as plain daft, time consuming, chaotic and not providing an inclusive future for our children.

At the time of setting up this post over 60,000 have already signed it.


Everything is up for negotiation we are told over the next few months/years. Tell our London politicians that Londoners want to at least to keep the 'freedom of movement' amongst other things ...

Here's the link;
https://www.change.org/p/sadiq-khan-declare-london-independent-from...

Don't forget to post this out to your email contacts & social media.Yes it's silly but so is voting out of the EU!!

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What Sadiq and the Lord Mayor of London must do, of course, in partnership with Nicola Sturgeon and Martin McGuinness, is to petition Dublin to take them all under the Irish Government's protective wing as The United Western Republic of the European Union. There is no reason why anyone who voted 'Remain' so convincingly should remain forever victims of English Nationalism's Extreme Lunatic Fringe. 

Thanks to my Irish granny I am seeking a change of nationality to Irish so that my grandchildren can benefit from EU free movement.

My great great grandmother came from County Meath. I myself can play a few dozen tunes on the Irish Banjo. Where do I get an application form?

Be realistic, an Ireland/Northern Ireland/Scotland/London alliance obviously isn't going to happen. Personally I'm completely devastated by this but we need to accept that a majority of the country had become alienated and impoverished by the mainstream parties and have taken this opportunity to give them a kick in the teeth, albeit they're very likely to make their own lives all the more miserable by doing so. Bleak times lie ahead for all of us, I fear.

Haha, this is quite amusing. You were told Out is Out.. and that is the standpoint of the 27.   You'll be well on the way out before September I hope. That's what the citizens of the other countries want. This whole thing isn't just a tory party excursion and the EU won't wait for the tories to find a new leader or make offers on Trade on better terms than have already been stated, which is what Boris is hoping for.

I've always felt that a Federal United Kingdom would be a good way to run the country. A country where the regions collect their own taxes  and the richer regions pass money down to the poorer regions, creating a standard level over the whole country, instead of having the richer South East  and the poorer North East waiting for Government to invest or receive the now lost EU subsidy.  This has been  the system in Germany, where taxes are not collected centrally, for over 60 years and has worked very well for the country.

Why so triumphal in addressing people who had the 5th highest remain vote in the country? You can't find it in you to offer a few words of consolation?

Triumphal?? No, I'm only stating facts. The simple fact of the matter is that most other EU citizens are certainly sad to see you go. But you've had rebates, opt outs and all the rest and that didn't hold you. The so-called 'extra-wurst'.

The UK is not a team player. Can't bear to be in a club it didn't set up itself or in which, it isn't top dog.

That's the rub..

The rub, Stephen is that we're not a nation that thinks as one. At least 48% of us wanted to be in the team. Someone sitting back chortling and blaming would be on the same level as the Farage crew. 

I'm feeling gutted today Stephen and the line you're taking on this doesn't make me feel any better.

I'm not chortling, but am sick and tired of hearing 'the British' mouth off about Europe. I made my decision to move nearly 34 years ago.. The situation was virtually the same back then. Nothing has changed. Most political parties, left and right, have used the EU to bury unpopular decisions from time to time.

It's all been said before.. now the preverbial has hit the fan.  Luckily, I  still have a pre-EU indefinite residents & work permit.

...in charge of what?

The reason I asked is that in the last few weeks so many have banged on about taking back control in the UK completetly ignoring that we have an unelected second chamber, that the Prime Minister is not directly elected, and that our head of state is there through an accident of birth, with more 'accidents' in the pipeline.

I wonder if in the following weeks, as people loose jobs and prices rise,   people will feel more in control.

I have no clue, Jessica, where you get the idea that I assume that everyone who voted out was on the same level as the Farage crew. I don't. I was talking specifically to Stephen and more particularly to his first comments on this thread and his amusement at our predicament. 

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