Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
More (or Less) Flights Over Harringay: Heathrow?
Earlier in the week I posted something on the impacts of the proposed third runway at Heathrow on Harringay. As I write this a large bodied jet (possibly a US red eye flight) is coming out of the stack over Essex to make its way into the approach for Heathrow.
I saw a BBC news report with an interesting graphic on the current and future flight paths into and out of Heathrow, and how the third runway might alter aircraft movements (you have to scroll down, as I cannot link to the graphic). I actually posted the wrong graphic in error thinking the current flight path arrangement represented what would be the future arrangements. So, I am re-posting with the right graphics and analysis this time! See below.
Current Flight Paths
The current flight path arrangements are a mess, having evolved over years as opposed to actually being properly planned. We are just south east of Barnet on the map, and currently right under a major flight path. However, it looks like we might actually benefit from a third runway. It looks like the flight paths will move north and south of us.
I am not sure we suffer quite as much as the poor soles in the West of London where jets are screeching over every minute or two. Actually, I normally do not mind them, as a plane spotter in my youth, and with a love aircraft, I am quite fascinated by them.
However, I have had moments when I have cursed them. My daughter's bedroom as an infant was in the back of the house and I long harboured a suspicion that the reason she woke at 5-6am was the screeching noise that wide bodied jets flying in from Asia at the crack of dawn would make as they descend out of the stack into the approaches for Heathrow. I long thought it was the aircraft dropping its flaps, but John McMullan indicated it might actually be the aircraft hitting denser air. I did a bit of research and this article indicated it is in fact a hole under the wing that is used to equalise pressure in the wing fuel tanks
Tags for Forum Posts: aircraft noise, flight paths, heathrow, third runway
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Thanks for flagging this up, Justin. We notice the early morning flights at the back of the house (south facing) but not the front.
I couldn't quite place us at first so have indicated on the maps below where Harringay is. The current map shows one path going right over the south end of the Ladder and a couple going over Finsbury Park. So the proposed new set-up would make things quieter here.
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Permalink Reply by DTW on
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Kind of an academic question really. The runway won't be built for about a quarter of a century...!
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I had reason to chunter about the flight path this morning: I wasn't going to totter up to the station for today's 0615 steam train, but I did put up the spare room window to listen, when it was due to pass. Cue a 747 overhead for the vital minute which quite drowned out the locomotive.
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Permalink Reply by Finsbury Park Ranger on
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I quite like watching the odd distant plane fly over on a lazy summers day. I might miss them.
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Me too in those circumstances, in the back yard nursing a glass of something: just not then!
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Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on
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You know it's 6 AM when a long haul flight descends over the Haringey.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Could the noise be the engines spooling up to produce more power to counteract the increased drag as the flaps are extended ?
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We seem to be also in the helicopter flight corridor, chinooks, the odd apache, (mainly commercial) even Borack's Marine One, with a fleet of three, reduced from six in April, because the Queen didn't want a repeat of scorched lawn at Windsor in 2011, so a three hundred year old lawn had consequences also, it was her birthday after all.
Civil Aviation Authority: Helicopter operations within the London (Heathrow) and London City Control Zones (CTRs.)
https://www.caa.co.uk/Data-and-analysis/Airspace-and-environment/Ai...
London helicopter route diagram:
https://www.caa.co.uk/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=4294978749
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We need to also take City Airport flight plan into account.
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If a campaign to close City is undertaken, in equal measure European rail connectivity, and rapid rail infrastructure, need to be in place for London and wider Briton.
Benefits from Rail need to be promoted and invested in the long term, to be competitive and affordable to compete and replace air traffic.
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Interesting topic and another "traffic study" I didn't account for before I bought into the Ladder this past spring. I noticed the planes like everyone else, not really so annoying as the "rat run" traffic but I wouldn't miss it either.
Someone above said runway 3 won't be operating for 25 years but the plan is to open in 2025 per the latest in the press. I presume this timeline took into account local legal challenges.
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