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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

As I was walking past Tesco yesterday, past the youths that congregate around there, I was once again so disappointed to see drug deals being made openly on the street. I know that this is not a new problem, but I just don't understand why it is allowed to happen there. All the time.

I'm just wondering if any of you long-time residents of the area could enlighten me on the status of policing the area and why kids can just stand on the high street and deal so openly. Boggles my mind. Thanks!

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Suggest you come along to one of the next Ladder Community Safety Partnership meetings (LCSP) at the church hall at the bottom of Beresford Road. The next is the 10th of March. You will be able to meet some of the local Bobbies who look after the area, and (if you are lucky) some of our councilors who attend at times.

Message me and I will put you in touch with the Chair of the LCSP if you want to table it as an agenda item.

Thank you! Will do.

what time is it?

That young dealer is probs driving a brand new porche which he could not afford from flipping burgers at mcdonalds. He is showing initiative. FACT: most people smoke weed.

Erhhh....no they don't ....very few people do in fact..
I'm not sure how to reply to this. I am quite pleased that my children are in a situation where we can send them to good schools and learn to make an honest, legal living. I know that a lot of people smoke weed. I would prefer it be legalised. But how do you know they are only selling weed?? I have lived in enough places and am old enough to know that blatantly dealing drugs in public isn't the norm and there are ways to combat it. Dealing drugs is certainly NOT "showing initiative" in my opinion! Thanks for your input, though:)

It must be the circles you mix in!

Maybe you do, But I don't. And I don't know anyone who does.

You may be closer to the money with 'most people have tried weed'.... I do not, nor do pretty much all the folks I know. Perhaps I am in a minority.

What I do know is that irrespective of what you think about drugs (personally I am for them being legalized, I can give you heaps of arguments why this should be so) I have seen some of the harm they do. I was working recently in Central America. I was talking to the headmaster of a school in El Salvador with whom I was working. I asked him how things were and he told me stories that made my toes curl. During the civil war in the 80s/90s he told me stories of bodies and body parts being found all over their communities as death squads from one side or other sought their enemies out. He said, things are now worse given the success of the US in interdicting sea based routes to the US for drugs. Drugs are now traveling by land and there is a massive turf war for control of these routes. He turned up to school earlier in the week I saw him to find a head hanging from its hair from the cross bar of the goal post of the football pitch. A head, in a kids school!

If you need to just get the tiniest insight into the impact of the demand from the North for drugs (including the 'harmless' weed some folks enjoy) then consider what you hear from Mexico. Last year along up to 20,000 people may have been murdered in drug related killings. The movement of drugs, fueled by demand by folks smoking weed and the like, or showing 'initiative' is leaving a trail of devastation that because it is remote we can fool ourselves into thinking is nothing to do with us, not our fault, something happening over there. Countries like Honduras and Guatemala are close to being the failed narco state that Colombia was on the edge of in Pablo Escoba's day!

Brilliant. Thank you.

Do you drink coffee or tea or eat chocolate or sugar ? Are you aware of how many people were worked to death as slaves to bring you a cuppa ? Most of the weed sold is grown in UK. At least these kids aren't passing a bottle of vodka around, but that's 'legal' though so wouldn't concern you. Have you been to a rock concert ? what do you think all those people at glastonbury are doing ? they don't go there for bible studies. when i was a pot smoking teenager you could go to prison for 12 years for smoking a joint, do you want us to go back to that regime ? stop pretending that people rich poor young old don't smoke weed, it's not helpful.

So openly dealing on the streets is ok by you is it?

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