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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

The North Harringay Primary School PSA Roof Garden project has been selected as one of latest Tesco Bags of Help community funding projects. This means that for July and August the NHP project will be up for vote at local Tesco stores. The votes determine how much money the project gets. Please buy something at Tesco and vote for the NHP roof garden project!


What you need to do to vote is shop at Tesco and for every transaction, no mater how small,  you can get a blue token which you then put in the bucket at the shop entrance for your chosen project and at the end of the two months the project with the most tokens gets given the most money.
There are 11 Tesco branches where you can vote for NHP, see the list and map below.
In most stores you need to explicitly ask for the token - "may i have some community project blue tokens please". Some staff don't know what you are talking about so you might need to be persistent.

Thanks for your support!

You can ask for the blue tokens at any Tesco store but to use the tokens to vote for NHP you need these go to one of these stores:

 

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Good luck.  I hope that the you get and use the money.  In my area the Stroud Green Residents Association received £10,000 at the beginning of the year for the Quernmore Road regeneration project, seven months later we have yet to see any sign of the money being spent on the project. 

Only just seen this, Konrad. Given that the sponsors of this project were pretty vocal ( and sometimes rude ) when touting for support, they ought to give us some feedback on what is happening.

The only feedback so far has been an email dated 27 June to those on the Stroud Green Residents Association mailing list from the unelected chairwoman.  This reads:

Hi,

We are trying to find a local surveyor to help us further the Quernmore Road Regeneration project for the cul-de-sac at the Harringay Station end of the street.

It's been a bit stop/start for all sorts of good reasons (and some not so good!) but we seem to have cleared the jam and are motoring ahead.

We are looking for someone who could talk to our designer about the features we need a topographical survey to pick up.  

We are proposing seating and planter(s) that will sit-on the paving rather than be set in-ground, so we don’t have any invasive works that could potentially impact on services.  The idea is to have an arrangement that avoids, or possibly straddles, the services chambers, so we need a basic survey that identifies the locations of these features, and also the levels so that we can determine what degree of height adjustment we need to build in as there is quite a steep slope in this area.

Haringey is undertaking a search to give us underground utility stats and these should be available in the next few days.

So the situation is the organisers of this project badger people to vote for their project, they get the money and then nine months later it dawns on them that they now need professional advice to deal with the siting of the seating etc.  And they also now they recognise that the site is on a steep slope.

You are right that despite using HoL to publicise this project there has been nothing on HoL since the money was granted.  Strangely enough Mike Braken one of the project proposers has been very silent about the whole matter, the last posting from him (as far as I can see) was on 29 November announcing the award of the grant.  Since then silence.  

The initial publicity on HOL stated that the structure had been " designed " by a local " architect ". In Belgium the word  architect  is rightly a term of vilification. If the local architect can't design a structure to be placed on a slope she should go back to Lego bricks.

This is just one more example of the fancy/schmancy ideas that come to a full stop when confronted with reality. Remember the avenues of trees that were to be planted on Green Lanes, copiously illustrated by computer-aided drawings, until someone with sense pointed out that there were service pipes under the pavements ?

Anybody with a spirit level and a stick, or a plastic tube full of water could measure the degree of height  adjustment required and the location of the service chambers could be determined by simply looking for them.

Nothing against the NHP  project by the way

Nick. If someone posts on here in support of their pet project, I think it's ok to comment on here, either for or against it.

He and his cronies may be trying to do good, but what if we feel they are succeeding in doing bad ?

If you are going to ask people to support your project and take the trouble to go to Tescos and vote for it then it is common decency and good politics to keep them informed once the grant has been awarded, 'cause if you don't then after nine months of seeing nothing doubts start to creep in about what is going on.

The idea that anyone who wants information has to go to Butt First and ask is laughable,  if you use HoL to ask people to support you then you should use the same media to inform and update on progress after the money has been awarded - is this too complicated an idea?

Its not whining its wanting accountability from people who say that they are working in the interests of "the community" but in practice they don't speak to "the community" except when they want their votes.  For example the (unelected) chairwoman of the Stroud Green Residents Association was a member of the committee which proposed this project.  Did she inform members about the proposal, did she ask them for their views - no, no.  All she had to do was send out an email - but no.

Did anyone ask "the community" for their views on the proposals - no.  The first that we knew about it was when the expensively produced leaflets came through the letter boxes asking for votes at Tescos and the mural at the end of Quernmore Road was vandalised by painting the notice about the grant voting.

Konrad, if you persist to slander me and my business on HoL with assumptions and thinly veiled accusations , I will have no other option but to seek legal advice.

I don't understand your accusations of slander etc. perhaps you could enlighten me.

Meanwhile, instead of threatening legal action why don't you provide HoL with an update on the project.  It is now 10 months since the £10,000 grant was awarded and there is nothing to see for it, and never an update.

Is it too much to update people, after all you were quick enough to ask them to vote for the project.  

If you aren't the person to ask please suggest who I should ask.

Written slander. I think you're on fairly safe ground here.

That aside, it doesn't really give a good impression if, in the absence of any updates, the first post on the matter is threatening legal action rather than giving an explanation.

It gives an impression of something to hide rather than a willingness to keep people informed.

Your supposition that something untoward or suspect has happened to the grant money is outrageous and untrue. I will defend myself and my business as I see suitable and without enlightening you.

There has been updates, which are widely known, albeit not posted on HOL. However, if you were part of the community that you so clearly are defending, then you would have known this?

The grant funds are, and always have been safely under the guardianship of SGRA. If you were so concerned, a simple email to SGRA would have clarified this to you.

There will be an announcement, that really has no connection with your request, in the coming days. Work will start in the next few weeks on the space, and there will be a free street party in late October - I do hope you can make it, and will use the space in the future. I imagine it would do you good to get out of the house occasionally.

It's libel when you write it down. Slander is when you speak it out loud. My favourites are flotsam and jetsam though.

Excellent! Will be getting lots of my votes

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